>I had not heard the term "Mass Noun" until very recently,
>then it was used on "Countdown" yesterday by somebody
>who should know, brandishing a dictionary.
Susie Dent, perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Dent
>Is a "Mass Noun" just the same as a "Collective Noun" or
> is there adifference? My studies of English Grammar ended
>with O Level in 1957
From COED:
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/massnoun?view=uk
mass noun
* noun a noun denoting something which cannot be counted, in
English usually a noun which has no plural form and is not used
with a or an, e.g. luggage, happiness. Contrasted with COUNT
NOUN.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/collectivenoun?view=uk
collective noun
* noun a noun that denotes a group of individuals (e.g.
assembly, family).
In particular see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_noun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_noun
Confounding of collective noun and mass noun
There is often confusion about, and confounding of, the two
different concepts of collective noun and mass noun. Generally,
collective nouns are not mass (non-count) nouns, but rather are
a special subset of count nouns. However, the term "collective
noun" is often used to mean "mass noun" (even in some
dictionaries), because users confound two different kinds of
verb number invariability:
(a) that seen with mass nouns such as "water" or "furniture",
with which only singular verb forms are used because the
constituent matter is grammatically nondiscrete (although it may
["water"] or may not ["furniture"] be etically
nondiscrete); and
(b) that seen with collective nouns, which is the result of the
metonymical shift, discussed earlier, between the group and its
(both grammatically and etically) discrete constituents.
Some words, including "mathematics" and "physics", have
developed true mass-noun senses despite having grown from
count-noun roots.

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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semiretired@my-deja.com - 24 Nov 2006 18:20 GMT
>semiretired wrote:
>>I had not heard the term "Mass Noun" until very recently,
>>then it was used on "Countdown" yesterday by somebody
>>who should know, brandishing a dictionary.
> Susie Dent, perhaps?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Dent
Yes, that looks like her..
>>Is a "Mass Noun" just the same as a "Collective Noun" or
>>is there adifference? My studies of English Grammar ended
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> developed true mass-noun senses despite having grown from
> count-noun roots.
Many thanks.