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Birdy - 28 Jul 2007 18:37 GMT
I find  pronouncing "English speaker" difficult. The last "sh" sound
of "English" either replaces the beginning "s" sound of "speaker" or
it is lost.If I pronounce conciously then there is perceptible pause
between the words....

Is there a way to get around this problem.
Robert Lieblich - 28 Jul 2007 18:41 GMT
> I find  pronouncing "English speaker" difficult. The last "sh" sound
> of "English" either replaces the beginning "s" sound of "speaker" or
> it is lost.If I pronounce conciously then there is perceptible pause
> between the words....
>
> Is there a way to get around this problem.

Slow down.  Or, as you say "pronounce consciously." [Note spelling of
"consciously"]

The best way to negotiate any unfamiliar series of sounds in a foreign
language is to speak more slowly.  In the case of "English speaker,"
most native speakers of English naturally introduce a very slight
pause between the words to keep the phonemes straight.  Follow their
example.
Michael DeBusk - 28 Jul 2007 18:57 GMT
>  I find  pronouncing "English speaker" difficult. The last "sh" sound
>  of "English" either replaces the beginning "s" sound of "speaker" or
>  it is lost.If I pronounce conciously then there is perceptible pause
>  between the words....

I think the easiest way is to stop considering it a problem. I put a
little "pause" between the two sounds, too, and I've been speaking
English since I could speak. My bet is that any native would do the same
if they valued clarity (as you seem to).

If it bothers you, though, you could say "speaker of English".

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Bill McCray - 28 Jul 2007 21:44 GMT
> I find  pronouncing "English speaker" difficult. The last "sh" sound
> of "English" either replaces the beginning "s" sound of "speaker" or
> it is lost.If I pronounce conciously then there is perceptible pause
> between the words....
>
> Is there a way to get around this problem.

Although I tend to chose my words carefully, my pronunciation tends to
be somewhat sloppy (for example, "gonnuh" for "going to").  I think I
say something like "Englishpeaker".  If someone asked me in person how
to pronounce it, like other responders, I would put a slight pause
between the words.

Bill

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Peter Duncanson - 29 Jul 2007 11:36 GMT
>Although I tend to chose my words carefully, my pronunciation tends to
>be somewhat sloppy (for example, "gonnuh" for "going to").  I think I
>say something like "Englishpeaker".  If someone asked me in person how
>to pronounce it, like other responders, I would put a slight pause
>between the words.

I've just tried saying the phrase at various speeds, and find that
when speaking quickly I too say "Englishpeaker". If speaking more
slowly it comes out as two words with a pause between them.

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Adrian Bailey - 29 Jul 2007 18:42 GMT
> >Although I tend to chose my words carefully, my pronunciation tends to
> >be somewhat sloppy (for example, "gonnuh" for "going to").  I think I
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> when speaking quickly I too say "Englishpeaker". If speaking more
> slowly it comes out as two words with a pause between them.

Me too. IOW, I don't think Birdy should worry about this one too much.

Adrian
 
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