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mm - 29 Jul 2007 04:38 GMT
I looked on a street map of Chicago, but I can't find my answer.

IIRC there are two well-known streets in Chciago that are not
pronounced liek the famous writer they are named after.

One is Goethe, pronounced Goethy, as in English.

What's the other one?.   The difference is in the vowel, iirc.

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tony cooper - 29 Jul 2007 05:48 GMT
>I looked on a street map of Chicago, but I can't find my answer.
>
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>What's the other one?.   The difference is in the vowel, iirc.

I'm not sure what the question is.  I lived on the Near North (in the
early 60s) on Scott Street, just a block from Goethe.  As far as I
know, there's only one Goethe Street.  Some nice apartments on Goethe,
and I've been to parties and such in several of them.

It was a bus stop on Clark Street, and some people who lived in the
Carl Sandburg Village apartments used that stop.

There was no accepted, established way for the residents to pronounce
the street name.  You'd hear "Goat-tay", "Go-thee" (or "Go-thy"),
"Go-thay", and some serious attempts to swallow the word enough to
make it sound "authentic".  "I live on Goat" was often used.

Areff, I believe, used to take the bus on Clark and I think he's
commented on how the bus drivers pronounced the street name.  It would
be difficult to convince me that any two drivers used the same
pronunciation.

People in this group might be concerned about the correct
pronunciation, but I never heard anyone who lived around there do the
equivalent of "OY!ing" any version used by anyone else.  

We were pretty casual about those things in those days.  "Rent party
on Goat!" was all we needed to hear.

Later, I moved to an apartment on Menomomee Street in Old Town.  Try
saying that when you've had a few beers!

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mm - 29 Jul 2007 07:15 GMT
>>I looked on a street map of Chicago, but I can't find my answer.
>>
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>early 60s) on Scott Street, just a block from Goethe.  As far as I
>know, there's only one Goethe Street.  Some nice apartments on Goethe,

Right, but there's a second street whose name is nothing like Goethe
but is also not pronounced like the person the street is named after.
That's what I'm looking for.  I thought it was also on the Near North
side.

I have a friend from Chicago and I was trying to tell him about it,
but I can't remember the name.

>and I've been to parties and such in several of them.
>
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>"Go-thay", and some serious attempts to swallow the word enough to
>make it sound "authentic".  "I live on Goat" was often used.

>Areff, I believe, used to take the bus on Clark and I think he's
>commented on how the bus drivers pronounced the street name.  It would
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Later, I moved to an apartment on Menomomee Street in Old Town.  Try
>saying that when you've had a few beers!

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tony cooper - 29 Jul 2007 13:26 GMT
>>>I looked on a street map of Chicago, but I can't find my answer.
>>>
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>I have a friend from Chicago and I was trying to tell him about it,
>but I can't remember the name.

Just a few blocks from Goethe there's Schiller Street, which is named
after Friedrich Schiller.  Schiller was a friend and contemporary of
Goethe.  I don't know how Germans would pronounce "Schiller", but
Chicoagoans said "Shiller".

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mm - 29 Jul 2007 20:02 GMT
>>>>I looked on a street map of Chicago, but I can't find my answer.
>>>>
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>Goethe.  I don't know how Germans would pronounce "Schiller", but
>Chicoagoans said "Shiller".

Not Schiller.  Maybe there is no other street.  Even though my mind
seems close to remembering it.  Thanks.

In Baltimore, people pronounce Taney St. as rhyming with rainy.

Even though 20 miles away is Taneytown, pronounced Tawney town,
probably named after the same guy.

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John Dean - 29 Jul 2007 23:46 GMT
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:38:31 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com>
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> Later, I moved to an apartment on Menomomee Street in Old Town.

Dut DOOO! dah doo doo
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