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Stabbed someone with a sharpie. Heard on the news tonight. www.dictionary.com gives 2 entries but they're about boats or clever people. It's obviously used here as some sort of knife, but what sort? And is this a term of the trade? But not known to dictionaries. Perhaps it happened at a hospital, and that was the term the hospital staff used with the reporter. Although I thought they called needles, etc. "sharps". s/ meirman If you are emailing me please say if you are posting the same response. Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years Indianapolis, 7 years Chicago, 6 years Brooklyn NY 12 years Baltimore 20 years > Stabbed someone with a sharpie. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > with the reporter. Although I thought they called needles, etc. > "sharps". I think it's a pen: http://www.bigdandbubba.com/nicknacks/sharpie_mustache.htm In alt.english.usage on Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:21:22 -0500 MC <copeSP@AMZAPca.inter.net> posted: >> Stabbed someone with a sharpie. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >http://www.bigdandbubba.com/nicknacks/sharpie_mustache.htm Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. Thanks. s/ meirman If you are emailing me please say if you are posting the same response. Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years Indianapolis, 7 years Chicago, 6 years Brooklyn NY 12 years Baltimore 20 years > In alt.english.usage on Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:21:22 -0500 MC > <copeSP@AMZAPca.inter.net> posted: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter > thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. If you've mailed a lot of packages, burned a lot of CDs, or sent your kids off to summer camp and needed to write their names in their underwear, you know what a Sharpie is. ;^)  Signaturehttp://www.genjerdan.com We're all one, but not the same one. In alt.english.usage on Thu, 1 Jan 2004 09:45:16 +0100 "GenJerDan" <ReverIE@genjerdan.com> posted: >> In alt.english.usage on Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:21:22 -0500 MC >> <copeSP@AMZAPca.inter.net> posted: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >off to summer camp and needed to write their names in their underwear, you >know what a Sharpie is. ;^) Not quite. ;) It's easy to mail packages without that particular marker, or any marker at all. A pen is fine. (It's sort of a psychological conundrum why there is the feeling, not uncommon, that, because the box is bigger than an envelope, the name and address has to be also. It's not like the UPS guy is going to read the address from farther away, or while the box is actually moving.) My mother wrote her kids' names in clothes long before the Sharpie came on the market. In fact she had a rubber stamp and a pad with indelible ink to make things go quickly. One can still do this. I've burned one cd and I looked for something that would write on it. I couldn't find anything at their house so I told my s-i-l what it was and went home. Is it really the only product that works? s/ meirman If you are emailing me please say if you are posting the same response. Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years Indianapolis, 7 years Chicago, 6 years Brooklyn NY 12 years Baltimore 20 years meirman@invalid.com spake thus: > In alt.english.usage on Thu, 1 Jan 2004 09:45:16 +0100 "GenJerDan" > <ReverIE@genjerdan.com> posted: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I couldn't find anything at their house so I told my s-i-l what it was > and went home. Is it really the only product that works? I don't know if we have Sharpies in Rightpondia, but it sounds like a "fibre pen", which are used to write on CDs. They dry almost immediately. Back in the days of photographic slides, fibre pens were the only device suitable for writing on the plastic mounts used by Agfa and Kodak (I think they used paper mounts in the USA). SignatureDavid ===== >I don't know if we have Sharpies in Rightpondia, but it sounds like a >"fibre pen", which are used to write on CDs. They dry almost >immediately. Back in the days of photographic slides, fibre pens >were the only device suitable for writing on the plastic mounts used >by Agfa and Kodak (I think they used paper mounts in the USA). Kodak certainly used card mounts for slides. I took over 1000 slides during my longest trip to the States in '73, and learned only towards the end of that trip that one could ask for plastic mounts, and pay extra for them. (I used to favour the 100 ASA film that only Kodak could process, for it had very subtle colours. In those days I found other film to be too garish. They don't seem to make it anymore.) Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > In alt.english.usage on Thu, 1 Jan 2004 09:45:16 +0100 "GenJerDan" > <ReverIE@genjerdan.com> posted: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I couldn't find anything at their house so I told my s-i-l what it was > and went home. Is it really the only product that works? Sharpies work, but the ink tends to bead and I, at least, was forever forgetting to wait until it's dry. So I smooshed the damn writing while getting the ink all over my hand too. I've switched to Staedler "pigment liners for drawing and writing". They work much better. Staples has them in sets of 6. They last forever too. Gary > If you've mailed a lot of packages, burned a lot of CDs, or sent > your kids off to summer camp and needed to write their names in > their underwear, you know what a Sharpie is. ;^) Hey there! How long have you been reading AEU? SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. >> If you've mailed a lot of packages, burned a lot of CDs, or sent >> your kids off to summer camp and needed to write their names in >> their underwear, you know what a Sharpie is. ;^) > > Hey there! How long have you been reading AEU? MC made me start a few weeks ago. Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these days. Signaturehttp://www.genjerdan.com You know of course, that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct. - W. Somerset Maugham > MC made me start a few weeks ago. > > Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these days. Only because I'm not there this week. >> MC made me start a few weeks ago. >> >> Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these days. > >Only because I'm not there this week. Tied up, are you? Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> MC made me start a few weeks ago. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tied up, are you? It's the thinger not the thong. > Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these > days. Then you're not reading the right posts... SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > > Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these > > days. > > Then you're not reading the right posts... OK. I'll, er... bite... >> > Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these >> > days. >> >> Then you're not reading the right posts... > > OK. I'll, er... bite... Look for the posts by April Dancer. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > >> > Sad to say, but it's more interesting than alt.sex.bondage these > >> > days. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Look for the posts by April Dancer. Well, er... I did. I found a few in *other* groups, but none in alt.sex.bondage. More's the pity. > Well, er... I did. Hehehe. Okay, guys. Who else among you actually went and looked? So as not to be a total loss, if you can tell me who April Dancer was, you'll get brownie points. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. TPUBGTH.delete.this.for.email@yahoo.com spake thus: > > Well, er... I did. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So as not to be a total loss, if you can tell me who April Dancer was, > you'll get brownie points. She was the Girl from UNCLE. She still needed a man though (if Noel Harrison can be so described). SignatureDavid ===== > She was the Girl from UNCLE. Excellent! Five (5) brownie points. > She still needed a man though [..] Only because I wasn't writing the show... SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > > She was the Girl from UNCLE. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Only because I wasn't writing the show... So let me get this, er... straight. If you had been writing the show it would have been, 'The Bondage Dyke from U.N.C.L.E'? Hmmm... Yeah. I'd watch that. >> >> > She still needed a man though [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd watch that. You'd have been my demographic. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > >> > >> > She still needed a man though [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You'd have been my demographic. Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> >> >> > She still needed a man though [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? I dunno. I don't think I've ever had the pleasure, and I presume I'd remember. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? > > I dunno. I don't think I've ever had the pleasure, and I presume I'd > remember. The fact that you assume it would be a pleasure reinforces my assertion. All we need now to cement it is for Simon to refute it. > All we need now to cement it is for Simon to refute it. Not likely, since this wasn't cross-posted. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > > All we need now to cement it is for Simon to refute it. > > Not likely, since this wasn't cross-posted. Damn. Without that angry little refutation it can't be true. >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >The fact that you assume it would be a pleasure reinforces my assertion. >All we need now to cement it is for Simon to refute it. I don't assume anything. I'm English, dammit, and it's polite and part of the stiff upper lip to say "I don't think I've had the pleasure", even when confronted with something vile, don't you know, my dear chap. Well, most of the time. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > confronted with something vile, don't you know, my dear chap. > Well, most of the time. I wonder what your position might be on stiff outer lips. >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I wonder what your position might be on stiff outer lips. Missionary. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I wonder what your position might be on stiff outer lips. Er.. I've never come across any. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Er.. I've never come across any. If you ever come into money you might. >> >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >If you ever come into money you might. Give me lotsa money and it might come to pass. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? > >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Give me lotsa money and it might come to pass. Khyber? >> >> >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Khyber? Up yours! (Things is getting out of hand, here. I very nearly wrote "your's".) Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >> >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? > >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Up yours! Rectum? No, ma'am. Missed 'em by a couple of inches. >> >> >> >> >> >Who doesn't like bondage dykes? >> >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >No, ma'am. Missed 'em by a couple of inches. That was half-assed. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >Khyber? > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That was half-assed. More of a semicolon, no? >> >> >Khyber? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >More of a semicolon, no? Almost a balls-up. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >> >Khyber? > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Almost a balls-up. Balls-up Mother Brown? >> >> >> >Khyber? >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Balls-up Mother Brown? If you can manage it. It sounds a little ambitious to me. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > >> >> >> >Khyber? > >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > If you can manage it. It sounds a little ambitious to me. You obviously haven't met Mother Brown! SignatureSchubert left a great work unfinished and died famous. Why not me? >> >> >> >> >Khyber? >> >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >You obviously haven't met Mother Brown! Reminds me of a joke that I told here some years ago. A chap who lived out in the sticks joined a golf club and became the biggest bore around. One day, after everyone got pissed off, he remarked to the professional "What's wrong with everyone? I'm only a country member." "That's alright, Sir. We'll remember." Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England TPUBGTH.delete.this.for.email@yahoo.com spake thus: > > She was the Girl from UNCLE. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Only because I wasn't writing the show... I can only remember one episode, although I think I watched many of them. Killer bees were about to sting our heroine to death, but the quick-thinking Noel shot the nearby palettes of honey, attracting the bees and saving April's life. SignatureDavid ===== > Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter > thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. I dunno, meir. If the reporter had capped the word, we'd know for sure what he was referring to. As it is, I'm wondering how anyone could pierce the skin with a Sharpie. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. In alt.english.usage on 1 Jan 2004 17:10:05 GMT Dena Jo <TPUBGTH.delete.this.for.email@yahoo.com> posted: >> Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter >> thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. > >I dunno, meir. If the reporter had capped the word, we'd know for sure >what he was referring to. As it is, I'm wondering how anyone could >pierce the skin with a Sharpie. It was radio or tv, no caps at all. :( You're right. Something like this would deserve more mention. I just went to www.sunspot.net , the baltimore Sun, and searched on sharpie and sharpy. None for the second, 5 for the first, going back to August. Looking at the one from Dec. 28, which seems to be about baseball, ... and indeed it is, "Bizarre celebrations: It's not that Joe Horn should have been disciplined for his post-touchdown phone call. Like Terrell Owens and his Sharpie last year, Horn was trying to be creative while promoting himself. But the Saints receiver looked absurd with that cellphone pressed against his helmet. And the Bengals' Chad Johnson was only slightly more amusing when he held up a sign that asked the NFL not to fine him. As every parent knows, it's best to ignore this type of behavior. If the league pays no mind, maybe attention-starved receivers will go back to simply dancing. " So I don't know how it was spelled when I heard it! :( s/ meirman If you are emailing me please say if you are posting the same response. Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years Indianapolis, 7 years Chicago, 6 years Brooklyn NY 12 years Baltimore 20 years >>Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter >>thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. > > I dunno, meir. If the reporter had capped the word, we'd know for sure > what he was referring to. As it is, I'm wondering how anyone could > pierce the skin with a Sharpie. Any broad-stroke felt-tip pen is a sharpie, and it doesn't have to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like "kleenex." It probably didn't pierce the skin, but of course it doesn't have to have for it to constitute stabbing. Maybe it made a bruise. \\P. Schultz > Any broad-stroke felt-tip pen is a sharpie, and it doesn't have > to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like > "kleenex." It's not in the dictionary yet. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. > >>Hmm. You might well be right. It's interesting that the reporter > >>thought these are so well known that he didnt have to explain. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like > "kleenex." Maybe in your circles, but not in mine. In the only other usages I have ever encountered, "Sharpie" is always capitalized and always refers to Sanford's trademarked indelible markers. No other felt-tip pen can substitute for a Sharpie, because the ink in others will not adhere properly to many surfaces (importantly, CD media). There are fine-point Sharpies with metal shanks; conceivably a sharp thrust with one of these could deliver a puncture wound. Don't tell the TSA, or they'll start confiscating these from the pocket-protector set. SignatureChris Green >>Any broad-stroke felt-tip pen is a sharpie, and it doesn't have >>to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > have ever encountered, "Sharpie" is always capitalized and always > refers to Sanford's trademarked indelible markers. <...> Unless those in your circles speak in upper and lower case, and you quiz them as to their intent every time they utter the word, you cannot know any of those things. \\P. Schultz >>>Any broad-stroke felt-tip pen is a sharpie, and it doesn't have >>>to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >you quiz them as to their intent every time they utter the word, >you cannot know any of those things. In my circles a sharpie is always a Sharpie (by Sanford). Anything else is a felt tip pen. I work among people who need to make temporary markings on paper tape for mixing consoles or video switchers. When they ask for a Sharpie they mean a "Sharpie" and don't want a substitute. As an aside, we used to use broad felt tip markers like the Dixon RediMark to mark cue points on 2 inch videotape. No matter what the brand we called them "flow pens". Brian Wickham > >>Any broad-stroke felt-tip pen is a sharpie, and it doesn't have > >>to be capitalized. Sharpie has escaped the legal barriers, like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you quiz them as to their intent every time they utter the word, > you cannot know any of those things. I have not once in the decades since Sanford introduced the "Sharpie" heard anybody use "Sharpie" as a generic term, until you brought it up. Just as I know without having taken a census of crows that so few of them are albino that somebody who speaks to me of crows speaks of a bird that is black, I can know that somebody who asks me for a "Sharpie" wants just that and not some other kind of marker. SignatureChris Green |
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