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METROSEXUALS A NO-NO FOR LINGUISTS

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 01 Jan 2004 06:08 GMT
Metrosexuals a no-no for linguists

The Associated Press
The TImes of India
Thursday, January 1, 2004

Detroit - Calling all metrosexuals: Get rid of that
bling-bling -- or at least find another word for it.

In its annual compilation of language irritants, Lake
Superior State University singled out 17 words and
phrases that it says ought to be banned as overused,
trite, euphemistic or just plain inaccurate.

The 2004 losers were chosen by a university committee
from more than 5,000 nominations from around the world.

'Metrosexual' topped the list. Coined in 1994 by British
journalist Mark Simpson, the term refers to urban,
usually heterosexual men with a keen interest in fashion,
shopping and elaborate grooming.

But to Bob Forrest of Tempe, Arizona, one of many to
nominate the term for banishment, it "sounds like someone
who only has sex downtown or on the subway."

Fred Bernardin of Arlington , Massachusetts , asked,
"Aren't there enough words to describe men who spend too
much time in front of the mirror?" As for 'punked' or
'punk'd,' as the MTV prank show spells it -- the
committee defined it as `bamboozled, duped, flimflammed,
hornswoggled'.

'Bling-bling,' a term for flashy jewellery or other
luxury goods, made its way into the mainstream from rap
music. Said Todd Facklas of Chicago : "Yes, your mom
might say it. Nothing could kill the mystique of a word
faster."

More at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/399164.cms

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DE781 - 01 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
>'Metrosexual' topped the list. Coined in 1994 by British
>journalist Mark Simpson, the term refers to urban,
>usually heterosexual men with a keen interest in fashion,
>shopping and elaborate grooming.

Eeeww!  I.E., "closeted gays".  WHO in their right mind LIKES "elaborate
grooming"?  If anything, WOMEN should be striving to become more butch!  Men
shouldn't have to become more queer!

>But to Bob Forrest of Tempe, Arizona, one of many to
>nominate the term for banishment, it "sounds like someone
>who only has sex downtown or on the subway."

Hear, hear!  Well, not quite.  To me, it sounds like someone who has sex WITH a
subway!  I wouldn't put it past anyone who's proud of being a "metrosexual"!

>'Bling-bling,' a term for flashy jewellery

That is not the right spelling, is it?

>Jai Maharaj
>Creator of newsgroups alt.jyotish, alt.language.hindi, alt.religion.hindu

You have your own newsgroup?  How do you create your own group?
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 01 Jan 2004 15:19 GMT
In article <20040101125454.16046.00001066@mb-m21.aol.com>,
de781@aol.com (DE781) posted:

> >'Metrosexual' topped the list. Coined in 1994 by British
> >journalist Mark Simpson, the term refers to urban,
> >usually heterosexual men with a keen interest in fashion,
> >shopping and elaborate grooming.

> Eeeww!  I.E., "closeted gays".  WHO in their right mind LIKES "elaborate
> grooming"?  If anything, WOMEN should be striving to become more butch!  Men
> shouldn't have to become more queer!

> >But to Bob Forrest of Tempe, Arizona, one of many to
> >nominate the term for banishment, it "sounds like someone
> >who only has sex downtown or on the subway."

> Hear, hear!  Well, not quite.  To me, it sounds like someone who has sex WITH
>  a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That is not the right spelling, is it?

>> Jai Maharaj
>> Creator of newsgroups alt.jyotish, alt.language.hindi, alt.religion.hindu

> You have your own newsgroup?  How do you create your own group?

I created a few newsgroups durinf the '90s, but not afj-m.
And, did I mention alt.steiner.coffee.bar?

Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
DE781 - 02 Jan 2004 02:46 GMT
Maharaj:

>I created a few newsgroups durinf the '90s, but not afj-m.
>And, did I mention alt.steiner.coffee.bar?

What's "afj-m"?  And, if you don't mind me asking a personal question, why are
you hated by so many people here?
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 02 Jan 2004 00:24 GMT
In article <20040101214653.14167.00002356@mb-m28.aol.com>,
de781@aol.com (DE781) posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj:
>
> >I created a few newsgroups during the '90s, but not afj-m.
> >And, did I mention alt.steiner.coffee.bar?

> What's "afj-m"?  

alt.fan.jai-maharaj

> And, if you don't mind me asking a personal question, why . . .

What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
courage to disclose it here, right?

Jai Maharaj
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DE781 - 02 Jan 2004 18:13 GMT
>What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
>courage to disclose it here, right?

My name is Joe, you fucktwat!  I've never hidden that!  Now answer my question!
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 02 Jan 2004 16:42 GMT
In article <20040102131347.12189.00002359@mb-m05.aol.com>,
de781@aol.com (DE781) posted:

>> What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
>> courage to disclose it here, right?

> My name is Joe, you fu[. . .]

Kid -- I mean infant -- you have demonstrated that you
were raised to be vulgar. What is your full name?

Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti
DE781 - 03 Jan 2004 02:23 GMT
>Kid -- I mean infant -- you have demonstrated that you
>were raised to be vulgar. What is your full name?

Answer me first, you sh.t-caked dickhead!
Steve Hayes - 03 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT
>>Kid -- I mean infant -- you have demonstrated that you
>>were raised to be vulgar. What is your full name?
>
>Answer me first, you sh.t-caked dickhead!

Is that what a metrosexual is?

Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
Steve Hayes - 03 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT
>In article <20040102131347.12189.00002359@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> de781@aol.com (DE781) posted:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Kid -- I mean infant -- you have demonstrated that you
>were raised to be vulgar. What is your full name?

What is a metrosexual?

Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
Robert Bannister - 04 Jan 2004 00:53 GMT
>>In article <20040102131347.12189.00002359@mb-m05.aol.com>,
>>de781@aol.com (DE781) posted:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What is a metrosexual?

Someone who habitually engages in sex on the Paris underground railway
system.

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Steve Hayes - 04 Jan 2004 19:12 GMT
>> What is a metrosexual?
>
>Someone who habitually engages in sex on the Paris underground railway
>system.

Thanks.

Do think it will spread to other underground railway systems (the term, I
mean, not the practice, which is probably already there).

Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
Dr Robin Bignall - 04 Jan 2004 22:59 GMT
>>> What is a metrosexual?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Do think it will spread to other underground railway systems (the term, I
>mean, not the practice, which is probably already there).

If there's any free love happening on the London Underground, I might even
take a trip. It's the only sort I can afford.

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Robert Bannister - 05 Jan 2004 00:46 GMT
>>>What is a metrosexual?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Do think it will spread to other underground railway systems (the term, I
> mean, not the practice, which is probably already there).
/www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm

Obviously, different names would be required: tubosexual, subwaysexual,
U-Bahnsexuell...
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andrew - 04 Jan 2004 03:54 GMT
> >>> What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
> >>> courage to disclose it here, right?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> What is a metrosexual?

It's when homosexuals call themselves when they're in the closet.

(By the way I heard a funny joke on Family Guy: you're so deep in the closet
you're finding Christmas presents!)
mUs1Ka - 04 Jan 2004 13:02 GMT
>>>>> What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
>>>>> courage to disclose it here, right?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> (By the way I heard a funny joke on Family Guy: you're so deep in the
> closet you're finding Christmas presents!)

On "Gimme, Gimme, Gimme" it was: "You're so deep in the
> closet, you're in f.cking Narnia."
m.
Tony Cooper - 02 Jan 2004 22:15 GMT
jai-maharaj said:

>>What is your name? Chances are that you don't have the
>>courage to disclose it here, right?

And Joey replied:

>My name is Joe, you fucktwat!  I've never hidden that!  Now answer my question!

This is one of the people you assured us that you could win over.
Calling him a "fucktwat" may win *us* over, but I don't know that it
will do much for your cause in winning him over.
david56 - 03 Jan 2004 10:28 GMT
tony_cooper213@mungedyahoo.com spake thus:

> jai-maharaj said:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Calling him a "fucktwat" may win *us* over, but I don't know that it
> will do much for your cause in winning him over.

They seem to be keeping each other entertained;  don't knock it.

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Steve Hayes - 03 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT
>jai-maharaj said:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Calling him a "fucktwat" may win *us* over, but I don't know that it
>will do much for your cause in winning him over.

What is a metrosexual?

Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 03 Jan 2004 16:30 GMT
In article <3ff670ed.153678059@news.saix.net>,
hayesmstw@hotmail.com posted:

> What is a metrosexual?

Search here:

www.google.com

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
DE781 - 03 Jan 2004 23:25 GMT
>> What is a metrosexual?
>
>Search here:
>
>www.google.com

a.shole!  Hayes, a "metrosexual" is a male who likes to dress up and spends
lots of time in the mirror, like a woman.  Basically, an *extremely* preppy
"straight" male.  I believe David Beckham is the celebrtity most likely to be
considered a "metrosexual", and his wife is the celebrity most likely to be
considered a whore.
AB - 04 Jan 2004 04:02 GMT
> >> What is a metrosexual?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> considered a "metrosexual", and his wife is the celebrity most likely to be
> considered a whore.

If they are so popular, then where are they? Has anyone ever actually
SEEN one? The whole thing is a myth. There are more stories about
metrosexuals than there are real metrosexuals.
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 04 Jan 2004 02:05 GMT
In article <c2ac7c1e.0401032002.6af76ed4@posting.google.com>,
andrevv@users.sf.net (AB) posted:
> If they are so popular, then where are they? Has anyone ever actually
> SEEN one? The whole thing is a myth. There are more stories about
> metrosexuals than there are real metrosexuals.

They are like WMDs in Iraq. Perhaps the Bushistas
also claim to know the location of metrosexuals.

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
david56 - 04 Jan 2004 14:41 GMT
andrevv@users.sf.net spake thus:

> > >> What is a metrosexual?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> SEEN one? The whole thing is a myth. There are more stories about
> metrosexuals than there are real metrosexuals.

I am astonished by the explosion of usenet articles about a word
which I have never heard in the real world, nor read or heard in the
media.  I think it's been invented and propagated as a bet.

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 04 Jan 2004 14:37 GMT
In article <MPG.1a623677f59334c5989f00@news.cis.dfn.de>,
bass.c.voice@ntlworld.com posted:
> I am astonished by the explosion of usenet articles about a word
> which I have never heard in the real world, nor read or heard in the
> media.  I think it's been invented and propagated as a bet.

Some words are born with buzz, some acquire it, others
have it thrust unto them.

    *---===== English is Munglish =====---*

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
DE781 - 04 Jan 2004 19:35 GMT
Jaharai:

>Some words are born with buzz, some acquire it, others
>have it thrust unto them.

Why do people here hate you?
Raymond S. Wise - 04 Jan 2004 21:27 GMT
[Some crossposted newsgroups dropped.]

> andrevv@users.sf.net spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> which I have never heard in the real world, nor read or heard in the
> media.  I think it's been invented and propagated as a bet.

The Wayback Machine Internet Archive has added a search function at
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

It has the interesting feature that it shows graphs of the use of a word on
the Internet from January 1996 to the present. Compare the graphs for the
words "metrosexual," "impeachment," "zorbing," "y2k," and "bling bling" at

http://recall.archive.org/?query=metrosexual

http://recall.archive.org/?query=impeachment

http://recall.archive.org/?query=zorbing

http://recall.archive.org/?query=y2k

http://recall.archive.org/?query=%22bling+bling%22

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david56 - 04 Jan 2004 21:47 GMT
mplsrayNOSPAM@gbronline spake thus:

> [Some crossposted newsgroups dropped.]
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the Internet from January 1996 to the present. Compare the graphs for the
> words "metrosexual," "impeachment," "zorbing," "y2k," and "bling bling" at

Interesting, although your links don't achieve what they appear to be
requesting - you have to click on Go to get the required graphs.

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Robert Bannister - 05 Jan 2004 00:49 GMT
> andrevv@users.sf.net spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> which I have never heard in the real world, nor read or heard in the
> media.  I think it's been invented and propagated as a bet.

Depends what you mean by the real world. The word has appeared several
times in my newspaper, but of course that's not real.

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david56 - 05 Jan 2004 09:12 GMT
robban@it.net.au spake thus:

> > andrevv@users.sf.net spake thus:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Depends what you mean by the real world. The word has appeared several
> times in my newspaper, but of course that's not real.

Well, it's not made it to the Warrington Guardian.

I had (and have) honestly never heard this word except in Usenet
postings complaining about how all pervasive it has become.  This
seems rather strange, and perhaps speaks to the insular nature of
those who live in the centre of our big cities.

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Dr Robin Bignall - 05 Jan 2004 14:03 GMT
>robban@it.net.au spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>seems rather strange, and perhaps speaks to the insular nature of
>those who live in the centre of our big cities.

It doesn't seem to have reached either The Times or The Indy, David, nor
has it reached the outskirts of small market towns. I've only ever seen it
here, too.

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Robert Bannister - 05 Jan 2004 23:59 GMT
> robban@it.net.au spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> seems rather strange, and perhaps speaks to the insular nature of
> those who live in the centre of our big cities.

It all started with article that must have appeared in many newspapers
worldwide (but excluding Warrington) about some new words that had been
included in a new dictionary. I can't even remember the dictionary, but
words included (as others here have stated) 'metrosexual', 'zorb' and
'bling-bling'.

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david56 - 07 Jan 2004 23:38 GMT
robban@it.net.au spake thus:

> > robban@it.net.au spake thus:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> words included (as others here have stated) 'metrosexual', 'zorb' and
> 'bling-bling'.

I've also never heard "zorb".  I've just got back from Brussels,
where I didn't hear it either.

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mUs1Ka - 07 Jan 2004 23:42 GMT
> robban@it.net.au spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> I've also never heard "zorb".  I've just got back from Brussels,
> where I didn't hear it either.

What a coincidence. Last time I was in Brussels, I never heard it either.
m.
david56 - 08 Jan 2004 19:24 GMT
mUs1Ka@exite.com spake thus:

> > I've also never heard "zorb".  I've just got back from Brussels,
> > where I didn't hear it either.
>
> What a coincidence. Last time I was in Brussels, I never heard it either.

That proves it then.

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 08 Jan 2004 19:33 GMT
In article <MPG.1a67bec2db60f862989f14@news.cis.dfn.de>,
bass.c.voice@ntlworld.com posted:

> mUs1Ka@exite.com spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That proves it then.

Say, didja see any sprouts sprouting in Brussels?

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
mUs1Ka - 08 Jan 2004 19:56 GMT
>> mUs1Ka@exite.com spake thus:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Say, didja see any sprouts sprouting in Brussels?

I'd rather not.
m.
DE781 - 08 Jan 2004 22:07 GMT
Muharaj:

>> > What a coincidence. Last time I was in Brussels, I never heard it either.
>>
>> That proves it then.
>
>Say, didja see any sprouts sprouting in Brussels?

If he just randomly posts to any and every Usenet group and never reads what
anyone says (which is what someone told me about JM), how come he's read this
post about Brussels (*and* commented on it)?

ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)
Robert Lieblich - 08 Jan 2004 23:22 GMT
> Muharaj:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> anyone says (which is what someone told me about JM), how come he's read this
> post about Brussels (*and* commented on it)?

Two theories: (1) He's not Saddam Hussein, after all, so
occasionally he does something that isn't pure evil. (2) He tries to
ingratiate himself with people so they'll read all the drivel he
posts.  Your choice.

> ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
> that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)

Brussels = Bruxelles, or vice versa.

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I don't know if "Brouges" has been anglicized

Donna Richoux - 08 Jan 2004 23:48 GMT
> > ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
> > that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)
>
> Brussels = Bruxelles, or vice versa.

Whereas that pronunciation indicates the different city of Bruges (or
Brugge in Dutch). It's supposed to be very beautiful though I have never
visited it. Brugge and neighboring Gent (Ghent) are old and were
important centers of manufacture, trade, and culture around 1000-1300
AD, when most of northwest Europe was quite sleepy.

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Robert Bannister - 09 Jan 2004 01:01 GMT
>>>ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
>>>that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Brugge in Dutch). It's supposed to be very beautiful though I have never
> visited it.

Definitely worth a visit. It can't be that far if you live in the
Netherlands.

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david56 - 09 Jan 2004 09:30 GMT
trio@euronet.nl spake thus:

> > > ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
> > > that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> important centers of manufacture, trade, and culture around 1000-1300
> AD, when most of northwest Europe was quite sleepy.

Bruges and Gent are indeed very striking cities, each with a
distinctive Flemish appearance, and both more compact than Brussels.  
Well worth a trip.

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Dr Robin Bignall - 09 Jan 2004 12:04 GMT
>trio@euronet.nl spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>distinctive Flemish appearance, and both more compact than Brussels.  
>Well worth a trip.

I've not been to Bruges since a Scout camping trip in about 1953 or 54, my
first visit to foreign parts, making the wonderful discovery that
snotty-nosed little erks could buy Stella Pils in a bar. My very first
spell of getting tiddly. The town itself was very beautiful, and it sounds
from other posts that it has remained that way.

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Quiet part of Hertfordshire
England

Severus Est - 10 Jan 2004 17:38 GMT
> ObAUE: Is "Brussels" the same thing as "Brouges"? (I'm not sure I've spelled
> that right; Dr. Evil's hometown.)

Dutch: Brussel, French: Bruxelles, English: Brussels.

http://www.trabel.com/brussels.htm

Dutch: Brugge, French: Bruges, English: Bruges (mostly).

http://www.trabel.com/brugge.htm
Martin Ambuhl - 07 Jan 2004 23:57 GMT
> robban@it.net.au spake thus:

>>It all started with article that must have appeared in many newspapers
>>worldwide (but excluding Warrington) about some new words that had been
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I've also never heard "zorb".  I've just got back from Brussels,
> where I didn't hear it either.

These stories almost always refer to the OED, but the SOED5 appeared last
year.
  [Note that the edition order is SOED1 (1933), SOED2 (1936), SOED3
(1944), SOED3revised (1973), NSOED = SOED4 (1993), SOED5 (2003).  Perhaps
we should drop the "NSOED" abbreviation.]
There we find

 bling-bling /blIN'blIN/ <noun, slang (orig US). L20.>
 [Redupl. of bling, perh. imit. of light reflecting off jewellery, or of
  jewellery clashing together.]
 (The wearing of) exoensive designer clothing and flashy jewellery.

 zorb /zO:b/ <verb & noun. L20.>
 [invented word]
 >A <noun> (Usu. Z-) A large transparent ball containing an inner capsule
    in which a person can be secured and then rolled along the ground, down
    hills, etc. <L20.>
 >B <verb intrans.> Be rolled along in such a ball.  Chiefly as "zorbing"
    <verbal noun>, the sport of travelling in a zorb. <L20.>
 * /Zorb/ is a proprietary name in New Zealand (where the sport originated)
   and Australia.

But we find *no* "metrosexual" entry there.

[Jay Stevens masturbation club and completely off-topic Indian .soc NG
deleted from newsgroups]

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jeReMi - 03 Jan 2004 13:04 GMT
> Hear, hear!  Well, not quite.  To me, it sounds like someone who has sex WITH a
> subway!  I wouldn't put it past anyone who's proud of being a "metrosexual"!

wouldn't that be a metrophile?
 
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