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Rules governing commas?

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FERRANTE - 08 Jan 2004 02:17 GMT
What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
Anyone care to share the definitive rules on this matter?

Thanks,
Mark Ferrante
Carter Jefferson - 08 Jan 2004 04:13 GMT
>What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
>use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
>Anyone care to share the definitive rules on this matter?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark Ferrante

Much too complex to deal with in a nwsgroup post. This URL will answer
most of your questions. It's a US site; if you're UK, usage differs a
bit.

http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas.htm

Carter Jefferson
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Alan Illeman - 08 Jan 2004 12:09 GMT
> >What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
> >use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
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>
>  http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas.htm

"However, there are situations in which, if you don't use this comma
(especially when the list is complex or lengthy), these last two items
in the list will try to glom together (like macaroni and cheese)."

I've never heard of "glom" it's not in COD5 but 'glomerate' is, meaning
'compactly clustered' which seems to fit the context, however the
meanings of 'glom' in Merriam-Webster (www.m-w.com) doesn't
seem to correspond at all.
Carter Jefferson - 09 Jan 2004 00:28 GMT
>> >What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
>> >use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
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>meanings of 'glom' in Merriam-Webster (www.m-w.com) doesn't
>seem to correspond at all.

I don't remember hearing it used much, but AHD4 labels it slang and
says this:  

  1.  To steal.
  2. To seize; grab.
  3. To look or stare at.

v. intr.

   To seize upon or latch onto something: "The country has glommed
onto the spectacle of a wizard showman turning the tables on his
inquisitors" (Mary McGrory).

Commnet tries to be cute, sometimes, but they're pretty good on
punctuation.
 
Carter

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Alan Illeman - 09 Jan 2004 12:47 GMT
> >> >What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
> >> >use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
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> Commnet tries to be cute, sometimes, but they're pretty good on
> punctuation.

Actually 'conglomerate' is a much more familar word, to me,  than 'glomerate'
and has a very similiar meaning ('collect into a coherent mass'), so I'm
wondering what the prefix 'con' means? According to COD5 'conjoin' means
'join'; 'connatural' means 'inate, blonging naturally'; so apparently the prefix
'con' does very little. Would you agree?
Carter Jefferson - 09 Jan 2004 15:47 GMT
>> >> >What are the rules concerning the use of commas? Sometimes I think I
>> >> >use too many, but at the same time the sentence(s) looks correct.
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>'join'; 'connatural' means 'inate, blonging naturally'; so apparently the prefix
>'con' does very little. Would you agree?

No, I like it, even though, as you say, it may not contribute much.
"Con" means "with" in Latin. "Conglomerate" thus seems to me to
indicate co-operation, while "glomerate" implies seizure.

In "conjoin," that "with" is unnecessary, since "join" either implies
or us followed by "with." I don't hear "conjoin" much, and wouldn't
use it. It's been around since Latin days, though, so it probably
won't go away.

I've never heard of  "connatural" before, and hope I don't again. It
sounds like one of those words people dream up to befuddle other
people, but Milton used it, according to the dictionary.

Carter

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