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Sprag - Etymology

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Joseph Smith - 11 Jan 2004 01:43 GMT
Hello

Anybody elsewhere heard the word 'sprag'?

It means 'to inform on', 'to grass'.

As in:
'I sprag on my mate.'
'He spragged on me.'
'We've spraggen on each other.'

I know it's been in use for at least fifty years in northern
Lincolnshire.

There are but 2 hits on Google that have the word how I mean (that I
can find). One is from Hull, the other Macclesfield.

Any guesses (or better)? I can only think that it could be somehow
like 'speak', but dutch or german?

Thanks
Joseph
Matti Lamprhey - 11 Jan 2004 11:20 GMT
"Joseph Smith" <stetsdigs@hotmail.com> wrote...

> Anybody elsewhere heard the word 'sprag'?
>
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> Any guesses (or better)? I can only think that it could be somehow
> like 'speak', but dutch or german?

Or it could be a humorous development of the older slang "grass" that
you mention, bringing in asparagus/sparrowgrass.  Was that a big crop in
Lincolnshire?

Matti
mUs1Ka - 11 Jan 2004 12:42 GMT
> Hello
>
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> Any guesses (or better)? I can only think that it could be somehow
> like 'speak', but dutch or german?

In my area it's twag. No info, though.
m.
Alan Illeman - 11 Jan 2004 13:56 GMT
> Hello
>
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> There are but 2 hits on Google that have the word how I mean (that I
> can find). One is from Hull, the other Macclesfield.

When I worked as a radio operator on deepsea (Iceland, Greenland, etc)
trawlers from Hull and Grimsby, sprag was another name for cod.
Joseph Smith - 11 Jan 2004 22:51 GMT
> > Hello
> >
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> When I worked as a radio operator on deepsea (Iceland, Greenland, etc)
> trawlers from Hull and Grimsby, sprag was another name for cod.

One of the mentions on the net was from Hull, and I'm not far from
Grimsby at all. But I have no idea what it could have to do with cod.

It may be cod is known for being a treacherous fishie?

Joseph
Alan Illeman - 12 Jan 2004 12:08 GMT
> > > Hello
> > >
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> One of the mentions on the net was from Hull, and I'm not far from
> Grimsby at all. But I have no idea what it could have to do with cod.

http://www.fao.org/wairdocs/tan/x5911e/x5911e01.htm
The name Atlantic cod is sometimes used, particularly in North America, in
order to avoid confusion with a quite different species, the Pacific cod,
Gadus macrocephalus. Small cod are usually known as codling, and
fishes intermediate in size between cod and codling are sometimes
called sprags; the sizes to which these names refer are given later in
this note. The name poor cod is used to describe a smaller and much
less important relative of the cod, Gadus minutus.

http://www.theverybestofstuff.de/contents/data/fish/sprag.htm
Most of the fishermen used the name codling for any cod which was not
full-grown. A distinction between sprag (a half-sized cod) and codling (a very
tiny cod) was only made by informants I, II, III, VI. Informant XII called a very
tiny cod "pout or fry" and used sprag as another name for cod.
 
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