Dear People (Especially those in the US),
As I email here before, I am carrying out a web questionnaire.
I have asked you to comment on the questionnaire but I only received one
response.
I would like to thank that person who expressed very useful comments.
I took them into account.
However, I need some more views to make it sure that I am doing fine with
the language, design, etc.
In this message I present the instructions to the questions that will follow
(I will send them later to this group).
What I would like to ask:
1. Please have a look at the instructions below and please check my grammar,
and language.
Is everything understandable for the average US person?
2. I have asked this before but I still cannot make a decision: I provide
the labor and pension income as "net:" and I explain what "net" means below.
Some of you mentioned that the average US citizen would tell you their
"gross" income right off their mind but they would think about their "net"
income. Therefore you suggested to consider gross income in the questions
that I consider (not pasted here but I will paste later. But those questions
always include a table like one indicated below)
Please express your view: Should I indicate gross or net income? (pay
attention that it is monthly income not annual: maybe people know easily
their annual gross income but not monthly gross income but maybe they know
their net monthly income than their gross monthly income?). What would be
the most appropriate thing to do for the average US person? To present net
or gross income in such a setting below:
These are the two main issues for the moment. Thank you in advance for your
cooperation and time.
Instructions
In the following questions we describe a number of retirement plans of
hypothetical persons. These retirement plans are shown on a timeline. Here
is an example, the retirement plan of Nicole:
Work Gradual Retirement
Retirement
Work Hours 40 hours 24 hours 0
Income $3000 $1800
0
Pension 0 $1200
$2400
1. Above the colored lines you see the age of Nicole.
2. The colored lines indicate the labor market status at the indicated
ages. In particular:
· the blue line indicates that Nicole works full-time
· the red line indicates that Nicole works part-time
· the black line indicates that Nicole is fully retired
3. Under the colored lines we indicate, for the corresponding ages:
· the number of hours per week Nicole works
· the net labor income per month she earns
· the net pension income per month she receives
We realize that the retirement plans of this kind may be very different from
your own and that your employer may not even offer plans like this. Still,
we ask you to evaluate each retirement plan or choose between several
retirement plans, given your own preferences. When doing this please assume
that
· The described persons work in the same industry, in the same type
of job, and under similar work conditions as you do. They are as
satisfied with their work as you are.
· The described persons' social and family lives are similar to
yours.
· The described persons' employer fully cooperates with all the
options that are described.
· The stated (pension) incomes are in current prices. That is, the
incomes are adjusted for future price increases.
· 'Net income' means income after tax, social security
contributions, etc.
· The pension income includes Social Security income and
occupational pension provided by the employer.
· The period of full-time work (blue line) starts before age 62, and
the period of full-time retirement (black line) continues after age 72.
Hence, in the example, Nicole also earns net $3000 per month
before age 62, and receives a pension benefit of net $2400 per month
after age 72.
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 10:42 GMT
The table did not appear correct in the previous message. It should be as
follows:
-------------------Work----------Gradual Retirement-------Retirement
Work Hours------40 hours------------24 hours-----------------0
Income-----------$3000--------------$1800-------------------0
Pension--------------0----------------$1200------------------$2400
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 11:04 GMT
I am terribly sorry. Read the table as follows please (please ignore my
message just above):
..........................62..63..64............65...66...67...68...69......70...71...72
-------------------Work----------Gradual Retirement-------Retirement
Work Hours------40 hours------------24 hours-----------------0
Income-----------$3000--------------$1800-------------------0
Pension--------------0----------------$1200------------------$2400
Andrew Heenan - 20 Jan 2009 11:22 GMT
> 2. I have asked this before but I still cannot make a decision: I provide
> the labor and pension income as "net:" and I explain what "net" means
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> the most appropriate thing to do for the average US person? To present net
> or gross income in such a setting below:
Suggested changes in BOLD
> 2. I have asked this before but I still cannot make a decision: I provide
> the labor and pension income as "net:" and I explain what "net" means
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the most appropriate thing to do for the average US person? To present net
> or gross income in THE setting below:
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 11:38 GMT
Thanks but I am asking the revision of the questionnaire not my introductory
phraragraph.
tony cooper - 20 Jan 2009 13:49 GMT
>Thanks but I am asking the revision of the questionnaire not my introductory
>phraragraph.
That's why I'm not interested in participating in your project. I'm
not about to put time into evaluating your syntax only to be told that
I've spent that time evaluating writing that you have no interest in
improving or changing.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 13:54 GMT
>>Thanks but I am asking the revision of the questionnaire not my
>>introductory
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> I've spent that time evaluating writing that you have no interest in
> improving or changing.
?
Of course I have an interest to improve and make changes. That is why i am
asking.
i could not understand your response sir.
tony cooper - 20 Jan 2009 14:07 GMT
>>>Thanks but I am asking the revision of the questionnaire not my
>>>introductory
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>asking.
>i could not understand your response sir.
Andrew offered suggestions about your writing. You rudely told him
that you are not interested because the comments were not about the
questionnaire itself.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 14:12 GMT
> Andrew offered suggestions about your writing. You rudely told him
> that you are not interested because the comments were not about the
> questionnaire itself.
I have not been rude in any sense. I said thanks and I mentioned that maybe
he misunderstood my request.
My request was for the questionnaire. I just mentioned that.
I am not being rude sir.
In anyways if I was, i apologize.
tony cooper - 20 Jan 2009 13:47 GMT
>2. I have asked this before but I still cannot make a decision: I provide
>the labor and pension income as "net:" and I explain what "net" means below.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>that I consider (not pasted here but I will paste later. But those questions
>always include a table like one indicated below)
>Please express your view: Should I indicate gross or net income?
Gross income. "Net income" is subject to too many factors. Some
Americans receive one check a month, some two checks a month, and some
four checks a month (and sometimes three or five in a calendar month).
Each check can have a different net based on what deductions are taken
out. Insurance, for example, might be taken out of only one check
each month and not taken out of the other checks. The net of each
check is not always the same.
If you ask for net income per month, you are asking for each American
to add up all of the net amounts and divide by twelve to be accurate.
People won't do that for a survey.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 13:52 GMT
> If you ask for net income per month, you are asking for each American
> to add up all of the net amounts and divide by twelve to be accurate.
> People won't do that for a survey.
I am not directly asking it. I am presenting amounts of income that are
"net".
Okay, I present it as "net" and the respondents may attempt to compare it to
their "net" income and your concern then may factor in.
But they will just see some income amounts in the tables...
In that case, would it still be better to talk on gross income?
tony cooper - 20 Jan 2009 14:09 GMT
>> If you ask for net income per month, you are asking for each American
>> to add up all of the net amounts and divide by twelve to be accurate.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>But they will just see some income amounts in the tables...
>In that case, would it still be better to talk on gross income?
Why do you come here? Every time a suggestion is made, you argue with
it.
I suggest you use "gross". If you don't want to use "gross", then use
what you want. Don't bother to tell me you don't want to accept my
suggestion; just ignore it.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
minimus - 20 Jan 2009 14:15 GMT
> Why do you come here? Every time a suggestion is made, you argue with
> it.
>
> I suggest you use "gross". If you don't want to use "gross", then use
> what you want. Don't bother to tell me you don't want to accept my
> suggestion; just ignore it.
It is not that i dont want to accept anything. I am just discussing it
further.
I am providing further details about what I am doing and rediscussing it
with respect to your comments.
You can be sure that i am continusly taking notes of what you mention or
other mention here.
Yes, I discuss it further (and may be I sound to argue I do not know) but I
am taking into account every word here sir.