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Lazypierrot - 31 Jan 2009 22:37 GMT
Hi!  I have another question.  I wonder if the following sentences b)
and c) can mean the same as a)

a) Whether he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

b) Even if he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

c) If he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

I suppose the sentence using whether means something like 'in whatever
situation', which is slightly different from the meainig of the
sentece beginning with 'even if', or 'if' as 'even if'.

Thank you in advance.

LP
Robert Lieblich - 31 Jan 2009 23:09 GMT
> Hi!  I have another question.  I wonder if the following sentences b)
> and c) can mean the same as a)
>
> a) Whether he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

Your sequence of tenses is off.   Either "is" should be "was" or
"could" should be "can."  I'll disregard this in further discussion.

> b) Even if he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

This is not the same as a), and it is meaningless in ordinary
English.  "Even if" implies a comparison between what the sentence
describes and what it does not describe.  In the case of "alive or
dead," it suggests that the subject of discussion can be either alive
or dead and implies that some third state of being might allow a
change.  But in ordinary speech one can only be alive or dead (let's
not get into near-death experiences and the like), so the "Even if"
clause covers everything and there is nothing to which "alive or dead"
can be compared to.  "Whether" contrasts alive against dead.  "Even
if" contrasts the two of them combined against other, nonexistent
states of being.  That's literal nonsense.

> c) If he is alive or dead, nothing could be changed.

This is incorrect, because "if" cannot substitute for "whether" in
this case.  You wind up with the same problem you have with b).  The
ordinary use of "if" for "whether" occurs in reporting and implies an
actual choice: "I asked if I he would prefer potatoes or rice."
"Whether" is almost always better in such cases.

> I suppose the sentence using whether means something like 'in whatever
> situation', which is slightly different from the meainig of the
> sentece beginning with 'even if', or 'if' as 'even if'.
>
> Thank you in advance.

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