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meirman - 21 Jan 2004 11:59 GMT
Have you noticed that soon after a couple separates, both or at least
one of them starts referring to what had been called "our children" as
"my children"?  They used to be "our children", "our son", "our
daughter" even when the other parent was not present.

I can sense some reason, undescribable, that my is better than our.

But I can't help thinking, especially when spoken by the custodial
parent, that it exacerbates tensions between the two parents, that
it's an unintentional or intentional way to stick it to the other
party.

Comments, especially from non-custodial parents, especiallly those who
wanted custody (almost always men.)

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John Dean - 21 Jan 2004 13:09 GMT
> Have you noticed that soon after a couple separates, both or at least
> one of them starts referring to what had been called "our children" as
> "my children"?  They used to be "our children", "our son", "our
> daughter" even when the other parent was not present.

I've noticed non-separated parents refer to 'my son / dtr'. In fact, I find
it rare for parents to refer to 'our X' *except* when the other parent is
present.
Ditto, siblings tend to speak of 'My Mum / Dad' rather than 'our'.
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John Dean
Oxford
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mUs1Ka - 21 Jan 2004 16:24 GMT
>> Have you noticed that soon after a couple separates, both or at least
>> one of them starts referring to what had been called "our children"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> other parent is present.
> Ditto, siblings tend to speak of 'My Mum / Dad' rather than 'our'.

And the opposite. "Look what *your* son did to my settee", spoken by the
mother.
m.
meirman - 23 Jan 2004 04:32 GMT
In alt.english.usage on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:24:25 -0000 "mUs1Ka"
<mUs1Ka@exite.com> posted:

>>> Have you noticed that soon after a couple separates, both or at least
>>> one of them starts referring to what had been called "our children"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>And the opposite. "Look what *your* son did to my settee", spoken by the
>mother.

Do parents reallly say that?

>m.

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            Chicago,        6 years
            Brooklyn NY    12 years
            Baltimore      20 years
John Dean - 23 Jan 2004 10:41 GMT
> In alt.english.usage on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:24:25 -0000 "mUs1Ka"
> <mUs1Ka@exite.com> posted:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Do parents reallly say that?

Some. Do you need a refresher course in Philip Larkin?
http://www.spicyquotes.com/html/Philip_Larkin_Parents.html

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John Dean
Oxford
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david56 - 23 Jan 2004 16:44 GMT
meirman spake thus:

>  In alt.english.usage on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:24:25 -0000 "mUs1Ka"
> <mUs1Ka@exite.com> posted:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Do parents reallly say that?

Some do.  We don't.

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meirman - 22 Jan 2004 04:58 GMT
In alt.english.usage on Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:09:13 -0000 "John Dean"
<john-dean@frag.lineone.net> posted:

>> Have you noticed that soon after a couple separates, both or at least
>> one of them starts referring to what had been called "our children" as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>it rare for parents to refer to 'our X' *except* when the other parent is
>present.

I'll have to pay more attention.  This would solve my problem.

>Ditto, siblings tend to speak of 'My Mum / Dad' rather than 'our'.

That's true.

Thanks

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