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Discussion Groups / English Usage / May 2009Goober Peas!
# I think my song has lasted # Almost long enough # The subject's interesting # But the rhymes are mighty tough # I wish this war was over # And free from rags and fleas # We'd kiss our wives and sweethearts # And gobble goober peas! 'Goober' is derived from the Congolese word 'nguba'. <from More Burl Ives Songs> Have any of you gobbled goober peas? :-D Nick from England > # I think my song has lasted > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Nick from England Absolutely they are peanuts. [ smiley and otiose question mark removed ] > Have any of you gobbled goober peas? > Absolutely they are peanuts. Eliminating all doubt, I see.  SignatureBob Lieblich Good thing he's right > [ smiley and otiose question mark removed ] ~ <g> The question mark wasn't otiose, was it? :-D Nick > > [ smiley and otiose question mark removed ] > > > ~ > <g> The question mark wasn't otiose, was it? :-D False alarm. The otiose question mark was added by my software, which decides on occasion to convert angle brackets into question marks. The position of that particular question-mark-that-should-have-been-an-angle-bracket was exactly where it would look otiose as a question mark. So you didn't to what I objected to; it was entirely a frolic of my own, in combination with my software. Sorry about that. We'll let the emoticons pass. SignatureBob Lieblich Gotta stay ? more alert > > > [ smiley and otiose question mark removed ] > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We'll let the emoticons pass. ~ LOL, thanks and thanks for 'otiose' - not in my dictionaries at home. Nick > > # I think my song has lasted > > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Absolutely they are peanuts ~ <g> Yep - 'a tasty snack enjoyed by Americans today' says More Burl Ives Songs, IIRC. And English folk are partial to 'em too! Nick from England > # I think my song has lasted > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Have any of you gobbled goober peas? :-D Peas, peas, peas, peas, Eating goober peas. Goodness how delicious, Eating goober peas. I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the Civil War--The North". Another song has "Pea bread. Pea bread. The old pea bread won't keep." But that is (according to Google http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/southern-war-songs/southern-war-songs%20-%2002 26.htm http://tinyurl.com/c64q5q (sung to "A Life on the Ocean Wave") This was sung by theConfederate troops, as they lay besieged by Union gunboats in "The Battle of theVicksburg Bluffs". I am not clear on whether these were the dried green peas we are familiar with (split pea soup) or the field peas that I call "beans" (black-eye peas and others) or lentils. >> # I think my song has lasted >> # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >familiar with (split pea soup) or the field peas that I call "beans" >(black-eye peas and others) or lentils. I remember the 1950s advert for Smedley's Peas on Radio Luxembourg. In the song, "goober" is replaced by "Smedley's". There are a lot of Google hits but, unfortunately, YouTube doesn't seem to have a recording of it. There's a picture here. <http://www.flickr.com/photos/whatsthatpicture/2464878225/> SignatureIan >>> # I think my song has lasted >>> # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > recording of it. There's a picture here. > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/whatsthatpicture/2464878225/> If you want Goober Peas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBfPx6yFPSM SignatureJohn Dean Oxford >>>> # I think my song has lasted >>>> # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBfPx6yFPSM Ah, yes. The advert for Smedley's used this (original) tune. SignatureIan > > In message <gtq8au$aq...@news.albasani.net>, Pat Durkin > > <durk...@sbc.com> writes [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > -- ~ <g> Thanks for that, John - are they Oirish singers? Nick >>> In message <gtq8au$aq...@news.albasani.net>, Pat Durkin >>> <durk...@sbc.com> writes [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ~ > <g> Thanks for that, John - are they Oirish singers? They wish ... SignatureJohn Dean Oxford >> # I think my song has lasted >> # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > familiar with (split pea soup) or the field peas that I call "beans" > (black-eye peas and others) or lentils. I say again not dried green peas nor lentils - Peanuts! Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f06qKlhkKG4&feature=related > >> # I think my song has lasted > >> # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > I say again not dried green peas nor lentils - Peanuts! ~ # Golden Wonder # They're jungle fresh! Sorry, couldn't resist! :-D Nick from England >> Peas, peas, peas, peas, >> Eating goober peas. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I say again not dried green peas nor lentils - Peanuts! > Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f06qKlhkKG4&feature=related So you categorically insist that black-eye peas or other field peas were not used to make "pea bread"? > > # I think my song has lasted > > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Goodness how delicious, > Eating goober peas. ~ <g> That's it! ~ > I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the Civil > War--The North". Another song has "Pea bread. Pea bread. The old pea > bread won't keep." But that is (according to Googlehttp://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/southern-war-songs/southern-war-son...http://tinyurl. com/c64q5q (sung to "A Life on the Ocean Wave") > > This was sung by theConfederate troops, as they lay besieged by Union > gunboats in "The Battle of theVicksburg Bluffs". ~ Goober peas were 'as familiar to Confederate troops as 'K' rations and beans are to American soldiers of today' says More Burl Ives Songs, IIRC. Must look up 'K' rations! Nick from England > Must look up 'K' rations! World War II issue. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > > Must look up 'K' rations! > > World War II issue. > > -- ~ Yes, that looks likely - More Burl Ives Songs (a Ballantine 1966 paperback) refers to 'later generations of American fighting men' and not American soldiers of today as I posted. Nick > I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the Civil > War--The North". Odd. In the Burl Ives version, it's the Georgia Militia that's eating goober peas. Just before the battle The General hears a row He said, "The Yanks are coming I hear their rifles now!" He turns around in wonder, And what do you think he sees? The Georgia Militia Eating goober peas. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > > I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the Civil > > War--The North". [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- ~ More Burl Ives Songs says the sheet music had the author as 'A. Nutt' but it was actually a man called Armand E Blackmar who ran a music store in New Orleans and wrote songs for Confederate soldiers - he was called 'the voice of the South'. Nick Is the merriment shown by some posters due to the fact that "goober" is a slang word for semen in some parts of North America? Due to our British spunk, we don't call it that where I come from. >Is the merriment shown by some posters due to the fact that "goober" >is a slang word for semen in some parts of North America? Due to our >British spunk, we don't call it that where I come from. Is it? I haven't heard that, but I'm not familiar with all slang terms. "Goober" is mostly known in the US as a description of a person. An unflattering description, and usually pertaining to lack of education, social skills, and teeth. It was, of course, the name of the auto mechanic in the Andy Griffith Show set in Mayberry. Goober Pyle (cousin of Gomer Pyle) was referred to as the "village idiot" in the show. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > <mike.j.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: > >Is the merriment shown by some posters due to the fact that "goober" > >is a slang word for semen in some parts of North America? > "Goober" is mostly known in the US as a description of a person. For those under 50, it's more usually just a synonym for "loogie," a hawked-up glob of phlegm. I don't know where M-W gets its 1980 citation for "goober" meaning a simpleton, or its purported vulgar origin. That sense had been pretty well whitewashed by the Andy Griffith Show before I was ever aware of the word--it was used by my uncle and his younger friends, but not anybody I knew of my generation. Before Goober Pyle, it had been used as a hillbilly character name with direct reference to peanuts by "Goober" Buchanan since 1938: http://books.google.com/books?id=qiOyjQZOaigC&pg=PA102 ¬R > > > I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the Civil > > > War--The North". [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > store in New Orleans and wrote songs for Confederate soldiers - he was > called 'the voice of the South'. That information makes it even odder that Pat finds it in an album called "Songs from the Civil War--The North". One or the other album is confused. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email >> > > I have another group singing that, in the Album "Songs from the >> > > Civil [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > called "Songs from the Civil War--The North". One or the other > album is confused. Mea culpa, John. I realized half-way through my post that something was wrong and in conflict between my recollections and what I found on the web, but decided to post it anyway. Now seeing your puzzlement, I have resurrected the two albums, put out by Columbia Records, back in the mid- to late fifties. Neither Pea Bread nor Goober Peas appears on either album. And now I can't recall when or where I heard these. I was sure that I had them on an album, and I still may find them on some compendium or other. I even misremembered the labels on the presentation booklet/album covers. Anyway, here are the songs and other sound tracks from "The Confederacy 1861-1865": General Lee's Grand March All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight The Bonnie Blue Flag Lorena The Yellow Rose of Texas Somebody's Darling We all went down to New Orleans for Bales (Parody on the northern song: When Johnny Comes Marching Home) General Robert E Lee's Farewell Order to the Army of N, Virginia, Appomattox Cthouse, April 10, 1865 The Conquered Banner Dixie's Land, with Quickstep and Interlude: Year of Jubilo. And here are the songs and other sound tracks from "The Union 1861-1865": The American Army Tenting on the Old Camp Ground The Battle Cry of Freedom Aura Lea The Invalid Corps Just Before the Battle, Mother The Field of Gettysburg, The Gettysburg Address, The President's Hymn The Vacant Chair Abraham Lincoln's Funeral March, Taps, The President's Grave The Grand Review of the Union Armies with: a/ Assembly of Guard Detail b/ Dress Parade and Dress Guard Mounting c/ The Signal Cannon d/ listed as follows: When Johnny Comes Marching Home The Battle Hymn of the Republic Tramp! Tramp! Tramp! Hold on, Abraham Marching Through Georgia Raw Recruits Kingdom Coming The Girl I Left Behind Me Flourish for Review. Composer Richard Bales. Recorded at the Natl Gallery of Art. Written between Feb 10 and March 31, 1956 (The Union) as a companion cantata to "The Confederacy", which was written between June, 1952, and January, 1953. I will continue looking (but not very hard) to find some other selections, from some album somewhere, labeled "Songs of the Civil War" (The South/The North), but at least containing those two songs. (Vicksburg Bluffs and Goober Peas) > Anyway, here are the songs and other sound tracks from "The Confederacy > 1861-1865": I had that in an album of 45s. > General Lee's Grand March > All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The Conquered Banner > Dixie's Land, with Quickstep and Interlude: Year of Jubilo. I digitized it and have it in MP4, pops, scratches, and all. > And here are the songs and other sound tracks from "The Union > 1861-1865": [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > The Girl I Left Behind Me > Flourish for Review. I managed to capture most of that on tape from the radio. > Composer Richard Bales. Recorded at the Natl Gallery of Art. > Written between Feb 10 and March 31, 1956 (The Union) as a companion > cantata to "The Confederacy", which was written between June, 1952, and > January, 1953. Several times I have checked the museum shop at the National Gallery and they do not have CDs of these albums. That really annoys me. > I will continue looking (but not very hard) to find some other > selections, from some album somewhere, labeled "Songs of the Civil War" > (The South/The North), but at least containing those two songs. > (Vicksburg Bluffs and Goober Peas) I have the Burl Ives version from an LP album called "Burl Ives Sings for Fun". SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > > Anyway, here are the songs and other sound tracks from "The Confederacy > > 1861-1865": [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > I have the Burl Ives version from an LP album called "Burl Ives > Sings for Fun". ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmL8bdn3GA Yep, mentions Burl Ives For Fun in my book. Nick Reading from news:alt.english.usage, Nick <pacifico@btopenworld.com> posted: > # I think my song has lasted > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Nick from England That song was nauseating to me in elementary school, as I remember it. I remember I had an odd reaction to seeing the lyrics for the song in our grade school songbook. Interestingly, the Wiki article on "Goober Peas" says that it's a song "frequently" sung in the south today. Well, I have lived in the south all my life and the /only/ place I've ever heard the song was in grade school. But I didn't know Elton John had a cover song of it. I guess it must be a different song compared to a bunch of off-key school kids. Remembering the song is one of those peculiar feelings, maybe something like an actor might think about when he thinks of a few B-movies floating around that are so unremarkable that they aren't even on DVD...just some old VHS. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goober_Peas Lyrics Verse 1 Sitting by the roadside on a summer's day Chatting with my mess-mates, passing time away Lying in the shadows underneath the trees Goodness, how delicious, eating goober peas. Chorus2x Peas, peas, peas, peas Eating goober peas Goodness, how delicious, Eating goober peas. Verse 2 When a horse-man passes, the soldiers have a rule To cry out their loudest, "Mister, here's your mule!" But another custom, enchanting-er than these Is wearing out your grinders, eating goober peas. Chorus Verse 3 Just before the battle, the General hears a row He says "The Yanks are coming, I hear their rifles now." He turns around in wonder, and what d'ya think he sees? The Georgia Militia, eating goober peas. (Note: In some versions, "The Tennessee Militia" is sung instead.) Chorus Verse 4 I think my song has lasted almost long enough. The subject's interesting, but the rhymes are rough. I wish the war was over, so free from rags and fleas We'd kiss our wives and sweethearts, and gobble goober peas. Chorus Damaeus > Reading from news:alt.english.usage, > Nick <pacif...@btopenworld.com> posted: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Chorus ~ Just learned the song a couple of weeks ago - love the bit about 'the rhymes are mighty tough' (in the More Burl Ives Songs version). Can't stand Elton John! :-D Nick Reading from news:alt.english.usage, Nick <pacifico@btopenworld.com> posted: > Just learned the song a couple of weeks ago - love the bit about 'the > rhymes are mighty tough' (in the More Burl Ives Songs version). > > Can't stand Elton John! :-D Elton John is like Tina Turner. His songs are either damned good or really, really sucky. Damaeus > Reading from news:alt.english.usage, > Nick <pacif...@btopenworld.com> posted: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Elton John is like Tina Turner. His songs are either damned good or > really, really sucky. ~ I like Tina Turner but Elton John even managed to mangle Pinball Wizard, IMHO, and that's a good song unlike the stuff he churns out! :- D Nick from England > # I think my song has lasted > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Nick from England It actually isn't derived from the Congolese word "nguba." It is derived from the term "goober," meaning someone is silly. > > # I think my song has lasted > > # Almost long enough [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > It actually isn't derived from the Congolese word "nguba." It is > derived from the term "goober," meaning someone is silly ~ Hmm - interesting. Saw Saskatoon berries on Dinosapien which was filmed in Alberta, Canada - they looked like blueberries. Jest fort I'd mention it! :-D Nick from England |
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