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Hafnium178 - 25 Jan 2004 22:29 GMT
The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
phrase as "a concerted national effort to prevent terrorist attacks within the
United States, reduce America's vulnerability to terrorism, and minimize the
damage and recover from attacks that do occur."

Where did this phrase originate? Are there other definitions?

Haf
Spehro Pefhany - 26 Jan 2004 00:56 GMT
>The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
>States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
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>Where did this phrase originate? Are there other definitions?

Es ist von "Heimatsicherheitsabteilung"?

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Peter Beattie - 28 Jan 2004 15:41 GMT
>>The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
>>States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
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> Es ist von "Heimatsicherheitsabteilung"?

Vot?

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Don Phillipson - 26 Jan 2004 01:19 GMT
> The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11.
> . . .
> Where did this phrase originate? Are there other definitions?

This names a new high government (cabinet?) position
in the USA, Secretary of Homeland Security, created
after the 9/11 catastrophe.  This was the agency that
promulgated an "orange alert" in December.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Martin Ambuhl - 26 Jan 2004 04:44 GMT
> The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
> States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
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>
> Where did this phrase originate? Are there other definitions?

The combination of "Heimat" and "Sicherheit" has strong overtones of Nazism
for me.

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Carter Jefferson - 27 Jan 2004 16:41 GMT
>> The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
>> States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
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>The combination of "Heimat" and "Sicherheit" has strong overtones of Nazism
>for me.

Me, too. I cringed when I first heard the phrase applied to a US
agency, and still  feel oppressed because it's there.

Maybe young people who don't remember WWII don't have that feeling.

I get a similar feeling when I hear about the "Patriot Act." Such
bullshit.

Carter

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meirman - 28 Jan 2004 11:35 GMT
In alt.english.usage on Mon, 26 Jan 2004 04:44:36 GMT Martin Ambuhl
<mambuhl@earthlink.net> posted:

>> The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
>> States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>The combination of "Heimat" and "Sicherheit" has strong overtones of Nazism
>for me.

Yes.  You're right.

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Robert Lieblich - 29 Jan 2004 03:07 GMT
> In alt.english.usage on Mon, 26 Jan 2004 04:44:36 GMT Martin Ambuhl
> <mambuhl@earthlink.net> posted:
[ ... ]

> >The combination of "Heimat" and "Sicherheit" has strong overtones of Nazism
> >for me.
>
> Yes.  You're right.

Of course he's right.  Why would he describe his own feelings
erroneously?

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The Grammer Genious - 29 Jan 2004 03:16 GMT
>>In alt.english.usage on Mon, 26 Jan 2004 04:44:36 GMT Martin Ambuhl
>><mambuhl@earthlink.net> posted:
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> Of course he's right.  Why would he describe his own feelings
> erroneously?

Logically, I suppose you're right. But I've noticed that when my
wife tells me what her feelings are, sometimes she seems to be
wrong about them. But I don't tell her that.

\\P. Schultz
meirman - 28 Jan 2004 11:34 GMT
In alt.english.usage on 25 Jan 2004 22:29:13 GMT
hafnium178@aol.com.ma.ndo (Hafnium178) posted:

>The phrase "homeland security" has become prominent since 9/11. The United
>States government, in the National Strategy for Homeland Security, defines the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Where did this phrase originate? Are there other definitions?

I'm sure.

But the phrase itself grates on me tremendously. Americans, USAns are
defined by their relationship to each other and to the Constitution
and shared American values.  Not by our relationship to the land.

It should have been domestic security or national security or physical
security.  (Even though "domestic" derives from the word for home.)

>Haf

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