'Millionth English word' declared
A US web monitoring firm has declared the millionth English word to be
Web 2.0, a term for the latest generation of web products and services.
Global Language Monitor (GLM) searches the internet for newly coined
terms, and once a word or phrase has been used 25,000 times, it
recognises it.
GLM said Web 2.0 beat out the terms Jai ho, N00b and slumdog to take top
spot.
However, traditional dictionary makers are casting doubt on the claim
and the methods behind it.
GLM, based in Texas, makes its money telling organisations how often
they are mentioned in new media, such as the internet, but it can also
track new words and expressions.
Once a word has been used 25,000 times on social networking and other
sites, GLM declares it be a new word.
The terms Jai ho and slumdog originate from the hit movie Slumdog
Millionaire, about India's slum dwellers.
But N00b comes from the gaming community, the company said, explaining
that it is used as a disparaging term to describe a neophyte in a
particular game.
It is also the "only mainstream English word that contains within itself
two numerals", GLM said in a statement posted on its website.
Landmark doubted
However lexicographers doubt GLM's claim, says BBC arts correspondent
Lawrence Pollard.
Dictionaries have tighter criteria about what constitutes a new word.
For example, it has to be used over a certain period of time.
Lexicographers say the exact size of the English vocabulary is
impossible to quantify, but if every technical term or obscure
specialist word is accepted then we are already beyond one million,
according to our correspondent.
And if the inclusion of specialist slang is restricted, then there are
possibly three quarters of a million words in English.
All of which is way beyond the 20-40,000 words a fluent speaker would
use, or the few thousand you could get by with in English.
But with 1.5 billion people speaking some version of English, it is
small wonder it is the fastest growing language in the world, our
correspondent adds.
What's your favourite new word? What word best sums up these times? Send
us your thoughts using the link below:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/8092549.stm

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Brian Cryer - 11 Jun 2009 14:56 GMT
> 'Millionth English word' declared
>
> A US web monitoring firm has declared the millionth English word to be
> Web 2.0, a term for the latest generation of web products and services.
But "Web 2.0" isn't a word, its a phrase or a term. Words don't have spaces
in them.
<snip>
> Story from BBC NEWS:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/8092549.stm
Clearly their standards are slipping or they haven't got anyting more
interesting to report.
Seriously though, what is the significance of a company that I've never
heard of arbitrarily declaring a term to be the millionth term they've seen?
I'm sure that google passed the millionth term years ago.

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James Hogg - 11 Jun 2009 15:10 GMT
Quoth "Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost>, and I quote:
>> 'Millionth English word' declared
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>But "Web 2.0" isn't a word, its a phrase or a term. Words don't have spaces
>in them.
You'd have to tell that to The Global Language Monitor, the
organisation doing the counting. Among the latest additions that
brought their count over the million mark are "Jai Ho!", "cloud
computing" and the hyphenless "carbon neutral".
><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>heard of arbitrarily declaring a term to be the millionth term they've seen?
>I'm sure that google passed the millionth term years ago.
Arbitrary is the right word. They admit themselves that their
list is not complete:
"Therefore, the 600,000 species of mold are excluded, as are the
tens millions [sic] of lesser known chemical substances, and the
like."
It's a totally pointless exercise, and I protest on behalf of
mould species everywhere.

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HVS - 11 Jun 2009 15:19 GMT
On 11 Jun 2009, James Hogg wrote
> Quoth "Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost>, and I quote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> brought their count over the million mark are "Jai Ho!", "cloud
> computing" and the hyphenless "carbon neutral".
Do they actually call them "words", or "terms"? If they're calling
"carbon neutral" a "word", they're using a particularly silly and
idiosyncratic definition.
And if they're counting a term like "carbon neutral" as "a word"
and then only finding a million words, they must be under-counting,
big time.
Silly season stuff.

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CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed
James Hogg - 11 Jun 2009 15:33 GMT
Quoth HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk>, and I quote:
>On 11 Jun 2009, James Hogg wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>"carbon neutral" a "word", they're using a particularly silly and
>idiosyncratic definition.
They fudge the issue by calling them "terms" and even "phrases"
but still count them as "words":
"The Global Language Monitor today announced that Web 2.0 has
bested Jai Ho, N00b and Slumdog as the 1,000,000th English word
or phrase."
>And if they're counting a term like "carbon neutral" as "a word"
>and then only finding a million words, they must be under-counting,
>big time.
>
>Silly season stuff.
Silliness is never out of season.

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John Dean - 13 Jun 2009 12:17 GMT
> On 11 Jun 2009, James Hogg wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> "carbon neutral" a "word", they're using a particularly silly and
> idiosyncratic definition.
Word!

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Marshall Price - 22 Jun 2009 06:48 GMT
> Quoth "Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost>, and I quote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> It's a totally pointless exercise, and I protest on behalf of
> mould species everywhere.
You can register sequences with the patent office. I don't know
whether they mean gene sequences or any sort of sequences.

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Tom Morris - 02 Jul 2009 19:24 GMT
> Clearly their standards are slipping or they haven't got anyting more
> interesting to report.
It's yet another example of BBC "churnalism" - crap, rewritten press
releases touted as news. It's quite disgusting really. It's why we have
specific days touted as the "saddest day of the year" (brought to you by
the travel industry: don't be sad, book a holiday), and "the Internet is
causing cancer!" scares and so on.
See:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/feb/04/comment.pressandpublishing

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Rambler III - 13 Jun 2009 22:00 GMT
[snip]
> But N00b comes from the gaming community, the company said, explaining
> that it is used as a disparaging term to describe a neophyte in a
> particular game.
Or a new subscriber to a Newsgroup.
A texting of "Newbie"?
John Lawler - 15 Jun 2009 20:31 GMT
> 'Millionth English word' declared
>
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> "Comedy is the art of making people laugh without making them puke."
> - Steve Martin
A few problems with this...
1) it's impossible to count the number of words in English
2) the 'web monitoring firm' is one man with a website
3) the one man is a complete fraud
4) so is his website, and so is the count
5) this isn't the first time he's predicted English millioncy
6) these facts have been known and published for years
7) nevertheless, media do love a good story, facts be damned
Other than that, no worries, eh?
(See (for example) http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=816
and lots of other places to see what kind of bullshit is being
marketed.)
-John Lawler - http://www.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue
"Academic integrity still plagues campus"
Headline, University of Michigan 'Daily' 11/12/02
mm - 17 Jun 2009 02:47 GMT
>> 'Millionth English word' declared
>>
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>
>1) it's impossible to count the number of words in English
That's not true. I'm counting them right now. .... I just counted 10
of them and I'm not done yet.
>2) the 'web monitoring firm' is one man with a website
I doubt that. Do you think you know or you're just speculating?
>3) the one man is a complete fraud
Apparently they do things related to this for paying clients, looking
for occurrences of words. And they've done it for more than a decade.
>4) so is his website, and so is the count
>5) this isn't the first time he's predicted English millioncy
>6) these facts have been known and published for years
If they are facts, how can counting the words be impossible?
>7) nevertheless, media do love a good story, facts be damned
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Academic integrity still plagues campus"
> Headline, University of Michigan 'Daily' 11/12/02

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Posters should say where they live, and for which
area they are asking questions. I have lived in
Western Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis 10 years
Chicago 6 years
Brooklyn, NY 12 years
Baltimore 26 years
Marshall Price - 22 Jun 2009 06:45 GMT
> 'Millionth English word' declared
>
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> GLM said Web 2.0 beat out the terms Jai ho, N00b and slumdog to take top
> spot.
Jai ho is reminiscent of "jive whore"; but that couldn't be it, could it?

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