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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2009iconic
Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. When the Air France plane disappeared in the Atlantic, and they found the tail, the news referred to it as the iconic image in red, blue, and white (or whatever). I've never even seen Air France's plane design. Is it new? Anyhow the word is used all over the place now, but not by me.  SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I have lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 10 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years > Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic > symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and white (or whatever). I've never even seen Air France's plane > design. Is it new? http://corporate.airfrance.com/index.php?id=864&L=1 > Anyhow the word is used all over the place now, but not by me. Comma after "anyhow," anyone? SignatureBob Lieblich Pedant On 21 Jun 2009, Robert Lieblich wrote >> Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in >> iconic symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Comma after "anyhow," anyone? Me votes "yup". SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed >> Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic >> symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Comma after "anyhow," anyone? Anyhow, anyway the word is used is fine by me. It's the tricolor icon used as a logo that puzzles me. I guess it's an image when you put it on TV. SignatureMarshall Price of Miami marshallprice@att.net http://marshallprice.wordpress.com > >> Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic > >> symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Anyhow, anyway the word is used is fine by me. "Anyhow, anyway, the word used is fine by me" or "Anyhow, any way the word is used is fine by me"? Bill in Kentucky ---------------------------------------------------------------- Reverse parts of the user name and ISP name for my e-address >>>> Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in >>>> iconic symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "Anyhow, anyway, the word used is fine by me" or "Anyhow, any way the > word is used is fine by me"? I go with the latter option. Of course the whole statement could have been "Anyway(s), any way the word is used is fine by me. > Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic > symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. . . . Those are different things. "Iconic" in the sense cited above does not derive from the sense of icon as merely "an image" (such as a corporate logo), but rather from the sense of "a worshipped or adored representation" (as in the Eastern Church). By metaphorical extension, that which is "iconic" is a very well known symbol thoroughly identified with its referent. Many iconic images are logos, but by no means are all logos iconic. These are iconic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coca-Cola_logo.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_logo.svg This (probably) is not: http://www.corporatelogo.com.au/images/logos/taipan-wine.gif Whether Air France's logo as applied to its aircraft is truly iconic is a matter open to debate; but it probably is, and for news media to so refer to it is not unreasonable. SignatureCordially, Eric Walker, Owlcroft House http://owlcroft.com/english/ > Have you noticed how much "iconic" is used lately, such as in iconic > symbol, when logo used to be used in the past. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and white (or whatever). I've never even seen Air France's plane > design. Is it new? It's a fad and it will fade. |
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