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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
On 10 Jul 2009, tony cooper wrote
>> I was watching 'It's in the Bag!' (1945) starring Fred Allen on
>> TV yesterday and a lawyer said his 'grand uncle' 'piddled his
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> pissed away all his money", but "piddled" is the cleaned-up
> version.
I was going to post the same, but I think what tickled Nick wasn't
that "piddling/pissing money" was related to urination, but that it's
mirrored by a description of urination that refers to money. (That
is, the two metaphors sort of swap places -- pissing money for
spending, and spending money for pissing.)

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Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed
Jan Hyde - 10 Jul 2009 17:10 GMT
HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk>'s wild thoughts were
released on Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:08:16 +0100 bearing the
following fruit:
>On 10 Jul 2009, tony cooper wrote
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>is, the two metaphors sort of swap places -- pissing money for
>spending, and spending money for pissing.)
Ah! The penny drops. I couldn't see what the OP found funny.
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Jan Hyde
Nick - 11 Jul 2009 09:53 GMT
> On 10 Jul 2009, tony cooper wrote
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<g> When I put 'spending a penny' I was just trying to be polite and
hadn't realised the link.
Nick from England
HVS - 11 Jul 2009 09:57 GMT
On 11 Jul 2009, Nick wrote
>> On 10 Jul 2009, tony cooper wrote
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>and
> hadn't realised the link.
Aha; I'll know to give you less credit next time, then! <g>

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Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed
Nick - 11 Jul 2009 10:18 GMT
> On 11 Jul 2009, Nick wrote
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<g>
Nick from England
>>I was watching 'It's in the Bag!' (1945) starring Fred Allen on TV
>>yesterday and a lawyer said his 'grand uncle' 'piddled his money
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> As it does here. The sentence could be written "My grand uncle pissed
> away all his money", but "piddled" is the cleaned-up version.
I've always thought the difference was ...er different. To me, "piddled
away" means slowly, in dribs and drabs, whereas "pissed away" tends to
mean spent like there's no tomorrow.

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Les (BrE)
tony cooper - 10 Jul 2009 13:32 GMT
>>>I was watching 'It's in the Bag!' (1945) starring Fred Allen on TV
>>>yesterday and a lawyer said his 'grand uncle' 'piddled his money
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>away" means slowly, in dribs and drabs, whereas "pissed away" tends to
>mean spent like there's no tomorrow.
At my age, the "dribs-and-drabs" *does* describe pissing.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Leslie Danks - 10 Jul 2009 14:14 GMT
[...]
>>> As it does here. The sentence could be written "My grand uncle pissed
>>> away all his money", but "piddled" is the cleaned-up version.
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> At my age, the "dribs-and-drabs" *does* describe pissing.
AOL. Despite the fact that there might be no tomorrow.

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Les (BrE)
John Varela - 10 Jul 2009 17:57 GMT
> >>I was watching 'It's in the Bag!' (1945) starring Fred Allen on TV
> >>yesterday and a lawyer said his 'grand uncle' 'piddled his money
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> away" means slowly, in dribs and drabs, whereas "pissed away" tends to
> mean spent like there's no tomorrow.
OED traces "1d. trans. to piddle away: to waste, squander (time,
money, etc.); to fritter away" to 1743 and "2. intr. and trans.
(refl.). colloq. To urinate" only to 1784.

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John Varela
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mm - 10 Jul 2009 22:29 GMT
>> >>I was watching 'It's in the Bag!' (1945) starring Fred Allen on TV
>> >>yesterday and a lawyer said his 'grand uncle' 'piddled his money
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>> > As it does here. The sentence could be written "My grand uncle pissed
>> > away all his money", but "piddled" is the cleaned-up version.
Based on what John says below, I think piddle is the origlnal and
pissed is the vulgarized version.
There seems to be a trend that I can see in the last 45 years that I
know of, of vulgarizing everyday expressions. Some people of college
age can't say anything without putting some vulgar word the sentence.
So I would be very reluctant to assume that a vulgar version came
first and a clean version later.
>> I've always thought the difference was ...er different. To me, "piddled
>> away" means slowly, in dribs and drabs, whereas "pissed away" tends to
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>money, etc.); to fritter away" to 1743 and "2. intr. and trans.
>(refl.). colloq. To urinate" only to 1784.

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> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Nick
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LOL - quite racy for 1945!
Nick from England
John Dean - 12 Jul 2009 12:34 GMT
>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Nick
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> Nick from England
Do you want them from the Blue Book, Lady?

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John Dean
Oxford
Nick - 13 Jul 2009 11:40 GMT
> >> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Nick
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> Do you want them from the Blue Book, Lady?
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<g> Max Miller - I wonder if Americans have heard of him?
Nick from England