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Gary Eickmeier - 10 Jul 2009 23:13 GMT
I googled up the expression "Now you're talking like a man with a paper
a.shole" and got nowhere. No one seems to know what it means exactly, or
what the derivation is. I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, because they are circular and have
a hole in them. But I don't know if that has anything to do with the
expression.

Anyone know anything about this?

Gary Eickmeier
Eric Walker - 11 Jul 2009 02:42 GMT
> I googled up the expression "Now you're talking like a man with a paper
> a.shole" and got nowhere. No one seems to know what it means exactly, or
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>
> Anyone know anything about this?

I've never heard that one before.  The closest possibility I could find
is here:

  http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/50/messages/798.html

It's at least plausible . . . .

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Gary Eickmeier - 11 Jul 2009 04:32 GMT
> I've never heard that one before.  The closest possibility I could find
> is here:
>
>   http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/50/messages/798.html
>
> It's at least plausible . . . .

Not real satisfying - to me.

Gary Eickmeier
John Dean - 11 Jul 2009 17:28 GMT
> I googled up the expression "Now you're talking like a man with a
> paper a.shole" and got nowhere. No one seems to know what it means
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>
> Gary Eickmeier

This guy claims to:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Cheppo
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Gary Eickmeier - 11 Jul 2009 19:39 GMT
> This guy claims to:
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Cheppo

That would be a different saying.

Gary Eickmeier
aquachimp - 12 Jul 2009 08:49 GMT
On Jul 11, 12:13 am, "Gary Eickmeier" <geick...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:
> I googled up the expression "Now you're talking like a man with a paper
> a.shole" and got nowhere. No one seems to know what it means exactly, or
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Gary Eickmeier

I started thinking rock-paper-scissors  for some reason, but it didn't
help much.

Then I remembered that apart from a donkey, an a.s is an arse, which
my spell checker doesn't recognise, but wiki does;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arse
Looking at that I'm guessing paper arsehole may be referring to
asswipe.

The only other thing I could think of was a self-cleaning orifice
leading to meaning someone who is perhaps a tad obsessively anal.
aquachimp - 12 Jul 2009 10:36 GMT
On Jul 12, 9:49 am,I wrote:
> On Jul 11, 12:13 am, "Gary Eickmeier" <geick...@tampabay.rr.com>

> Then I remembered that apart from a donkey, an a.s is an arse, which
> my spell checker doesn't recognise, but wiki does;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arse
> Looking at that I'm guessing paper arsehole may be referring to
> asswipe.

On further reflection, if "talking like an asswipe" equates to
"talking like a man with a paper a.shole", why might one opt for the
longer version?

A sense of unimportance yielding to the need to hold the listeners
attention for that bit longer? i.e. that the user of the expression is
basically an asswipe.
The wordier the more intellectually sounding?
What if it was a female that the remark was aimed at? The asswipe
wants to share their sexist leanings.
Frederick Williams - 12 Jul 2009 13:13 GMT
> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...

Who is this "we"?

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Gary Eickmeier - 12 Jul 2009 20:30 GMT
>> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
>> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
>
> Who is this "we"?

Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
group?

Gary Eickmeier
John Varela - 12 Jul 2009 23:29 GMT
> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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> Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
> group?

Should he have asked, "Why you say-um 'we', Paleface?"

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Gary Eickmeier - 13 Jul 2009 03:04 GMT
>> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
>> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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>
> Should he have asked, "Why you say-um 'we', Paleface?"

Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?

Gary Eickmeier
Frederick Williams - 13 Jul 2009 10:39 GMT

> Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?

No.  But I didn't know that you meant people in general.

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Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

Jan Hyde - 13 Jul 2009 14:48 GMT
Frederick Williams <frederick.williams2@tesco.net>'s wild
thoughts were released on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:39:59 +0100
bearing the following fruit:

>> Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?
>
>No.  But I didn't know that you meant people in general.

Nor me, since I've never heard the term until the OPs post I
had assumed the 'we' was a particular group of people.
--
Jan Hyde
Gary Eickmeier - 13 Jul 2009 15:00 GMT
> Frederick Williams <frederick.williams2@tesco.net>'s wild
> thoughts were released on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:39:59 +0100
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> --
> Jan Hyde

I sense a joke being played on me...

Gary Eickmeier
Jan Hyde - 13 Jul 2009 17:18 GMT
"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com>'s wild thoughts
were released on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:00:02 -0400 bearing the
following fruit:

>> Frederick Williams <frederick.williams2@tesco.net>'s wild
>> thoughts were released on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:39:59 +0100
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>I sense a joke being played on me...

Why?

--
Jan Hyde
Gary Eickmeier - 13 Jul 2009 15:14 GMT
> Nor me, since I've never heard the term until the OPs post I
> had assumed the 'we' was a particular group of people.

From Jan Hyde, AEU msg Nov 18, 2008 re: Letter opening line:

"I seriously don't know. As another poster pointed out, I
think we'd need to know what it is that you are offering and
who you are targeting. The last point matters, because I
have little time for any marketing material at home, but at
work it's a different situation."

Jan Hyde

Gary Eickmeier
Jan Hyde - 13 Jul 2009 17:18 GMT
"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com>'s wild thoughts
were released on Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:14:48 -0400 bearing the
following fruit:

>> Nor me, since I've never heard the term until the OPs post I
>> had assumed the 'we' was a particular group of people.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Gary Eickmeier

???

--
Jan Hyde
John Varela - 13 Jul 2009 17:00 GMT
> >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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>
> Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?

I took Frederick to be remarking that he is not a member of the "we"
who use that term for reinforcement rings, and also implying that
the term is not in common use.  I've never heard that usage before,
so agree that the term is not in common use.

I cited the "Paleface" punch line (I assume everyone knows the joke)
to suggest that you're on your own with that one.

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Frederick Williams - 13 Jul 2009 10:38 GMT
> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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> Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
> group?

Since I have never heard the phrase used, I was asking who were the
group of people that you designated "we".  What's wrong with that?

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Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

Gary Eickmeier - 13 Jul 2009 13:13 GMT
>> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
>> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Since I have never heard the phrase used, I was asking who were the
> group of people that you designated "we".  What's wrong with that?

Sorry, I didn't know you were ESL.

"We" is sometimes used for people in general, as in "We sometimes use 'we'
as a substitute for people in general."

"We love our freedoms."

"If a politician gets involved in a scandal, we don't reelect him."

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common
defense..."

Gary Eickmeier

Gary Eickmeier
Frederick Williams - 13 Jul 2009 15:49 GMT
> >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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>
> Sorry, I didn't know you were ESL.

I don't know what ESL is either.

> "We" is sometimes used for people in general, ...

Indeed so, but it seems that "people in general" are not all familiar
with the phrase "paper a.shole."

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Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

John Varela - 13 Jul 2009 17:08 GMT
> > >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> > >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I don't know what ESL is either.

English as a Second Language.  He is resorting to ad hominem attack.
Looking back, I see that he started the ad hominem with "idiot"
above.  He seems to be something of a jerk.

> > "We" is sometimes used for people in general, ...
>
> Indeed so, but it seems that "people in general" are not all familiar
> with the phrase "paper a.shole."

Nor do people in general use the phrase to refer to ring binder
reinforcements.

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Gary Eickmeier - 14 Jul 2009 02:18 GMT
>> > >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
>> > >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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> Nor do people in general use the phrase to refer to ring binder
> reinforcements.

I'll see if I can simplify it all down for you:

I said that we sometimes use the term for the little reinforcements for
loose leaf paper holes. See

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paper%20asshole

Then Williams asked what "we" meant. I told him it means people in general,
to which you responded that you have never heard the term before. So I
quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
meaning people in general, as in " I think we'd need to know what it is that
you are offering ."

So what we have is "People sometimes use the term to mean... " etc. Notice
my use of "we" in this sentence as well. Next post we can work on
"sometimes."

Gary Eickmeier
Frederick Williams - 14 Jul 2009 09:54 GMT
> >> > >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> > >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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> Then Williams asked what "we" meant. I told him it means people in general,
> to which you responded that you have never heard the term before.

Don't you think that he meant he had not heard "paper a.shole" before,
not that he hadn't heard the word "we" used in that way before?

> So I
> quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
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>
> Gary Eickmeier

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Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

John Varela - 15 Jul 2009 01:07 GMT
> > >> > >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> > >> > >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
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> Don't you think that he meant he had not heard "paper a.shole" before,
> not that he hadn't heard the word "we" used in that way before?

Now he's just trolling.  As I said, he's a jerk and it's a waste of
time to bandy words with him.

> > So I
> > quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> > Gary Eickmeier

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aquachimp - 13 Jul 2009 19:20 GMT
On Jul 13, 11:38 am, Frederick Williams
<frederick.willia...@tesco.net> wrote:

> > >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> > >> hole reinforcement tapes paper a.sholes, ...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Since I have never heard the phrase used, I was asking who were the
> group of people that you designated "we".  

For what it's worth, I assumed that "we" referred to himself and his
co-workers who use the term with regards to the loose leaf binder.
But now I find myself wondering why he hasn't offered that sort of
reason.
Hmmmm

>What's wrong with that?
>
> --
> Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
> Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
> Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.
 
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