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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2009How do *you* pronounce "sacrilegious"?
Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation?  Signature"If you can, tell me something happy." - Marybones > Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this > through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? Not by me. GFH >Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this >through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? I don't know about most people. I, in BrE, prounounce the first "i" in "sacrilegious" as a schwa - indistinctly. The OED gives alternative pronunciations for the "e": either the "i" sound in "pit" or the "ea" sound in "bean". I think I use the former. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) On 12 July, 14:48, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote: > I don't know about most people. I, in BrE, prounounce the first "i" in > "sacrilegious" as a schwa - indistinctly. Me too, and I am told I speak RP > On 12 July, 14:48, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Me too, and I am told I speak RP Does one, really, if one needs to be told? SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) >Does one, really, if one needs to be told? I don't mean that I go around asking people. I just think of it (if I do at all) as "the way I speak", but my girlfriend (from Lancashire) says I speak like a "BBC announcer from 2 or 3 decades ago". > Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is > this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? I pronounce the vowels in the second and third syllables in the same way--like the "i" in "it". >> Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is >> this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? > >I pronounce the vowels in the second and third syllables in the same >way--like the "i" in "it". So do I (Br.E.). Moreover, I do exactly the same in "religious" (most of the time; practising, I find that I'm not entirely consistent). Am I out of line with my compatriots here? Katy >>> Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is >>> this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >time; practising, I find that I'm not entirely consistent). Am I out of line >with my compatriots here? You are in line with this compatriot including the inconsistency. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.english.usage) > >> Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is > >> this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > time; practising, I find that I'm not entirely consistent). Am I out of line > with my compatriots here? If you are, we're out of line together. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary In alt.usage.english, Amethyst Deceiver wrote: >> >> Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is >> >> this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >If you are, we're out of line together. I'm surprised at how many people have had cause to utter that word. I'm pretty sure I never have. SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England >In alt.usage.english, Amethyst Deceiver wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >I'm surprised at how many people have had cause to utter that word. I'm >pretty sure I never have. Obviously, you are not Catholic with a son who misbehaved during mass. My mother uttered that word every Sunday. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >> Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is >> this through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? > > I pronounce the vowels in the second and third syllables in the same > way--like the "i" in "it". Me too. >Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this >through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? Four syllables, none of the "i". Sa as in sack cri as in crib lejus first four letters as in legion. SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I have lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 10 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years > Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this > through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? When I were a lad I thought the word _was_ "sacreligious", and pronounced it accordingly. When I learned what it really was I continued pronouncing it as before, as I regarded it as formed by adding "-ous" to "sacrilege", and as that rhymes with "bridge" there didn't seem any strong reason to change. Signatureathel >Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this >through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? So afaict, we never got an answer. Is the proper American pronunciation for the first i to be pronounced ee or i? Does sacreligious rhyme with religious or not? SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I have lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 10 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years > >Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this > >through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Brooklyn, NY 12 years > Baltimore 26 years It does not. /,s&kr@'lIdZ@s/ Indianapolis 18 years (10 in Catholic schools) Houston 40+ years > > >Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is this > > >through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > It does not. /,s&kr@'lIdZ@s/ Does too! SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email >>Like most people (I would hazard a guess) I say "sacreligious" - is >>this >>through usage considered the 'correct' pronunciation? > > So afaict, we never got an answer. Is the proper American > pronunciation for the first i to be pronounced ee or i? What's with this "proper" stuff? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sacrilegious shows the "long e" sound in "-leg" as "also". M-W, as far as I know puts secondary usage in a secondary position. Both forms are pronounced, in "main" and "also" order. Main Entry: sac·ri·lege Pronunciation: \ˈsa-krə-lij\ I think the upsidedown "e" in the second syllable is something like a shwa, and most people I know pronouce the second syllable somthing like the unstressed "u" in halibut, shortcut, etc (sacra-). [Sent in Unicode to see if the upsidedown 'e' works] I mainly use the "i" in "it, til, bit", mainly because if I use a word like that, I want to remember the spelling--"i before e"--though I pronounce them the same (short i):sa kril 'lij us. > Does sacreligious rhyme with religious or not? Note your misspelling. But, yes, the intended word has "religious" (ralijus, raleejus) pronounced identically. They have different roots. Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin sacrilegium, from sacrilegus one who robs sacred property, from sacr-, sacer + legere to gather, steal — more at legend. SignaturePat Durkin durkinpa at msn.com Wisconsin Most of my 7 decades. > So afaict, we never got an answer. Is the proper American > pronunciation for the first i to be pronounced ee or i? I pronounce it either as the i in clip or as a schwa, I'm not sure which. To find out I would have to record myself saying it and then listen to it a half-dozen times. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email |
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