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"Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"

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mm - 23 Sep 2009 21:26 GMT
"Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"

Since when does there have to be a union to for people to strike.
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Bertel Lund Hansen - 23 Sep 2009 21:37 GMT
mm skrev:

> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"

I suppose they don't work either for the same reason.

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Eric Walker - 23 Sep 2009 22:55 GMT
> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>
> Since when does there have to be a union to for people to strike.

A "strike" is generally considered to be the action of a unionized labor
force.  The same actions taken either by unionized workers without the
sanction of the union or by non-union workers are often called a "wildcat
strike", but I suspect "walkout" is the better term.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#Categories_of_strikes

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John Dean - 23 Sep 2009 23:04 GMT
>> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>>
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>
> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#Categories_of_strikes

In the UK a strike is any withdrawal of labour, whether by union workers or
not. However, non-Union workers tend to be badly treated by employers -
usually sacked - whereas Union strikers have some degree of protection.
A 'wildcat' strike is one where standard procedures (ballot / consultation /
whatever) are not followed. The Union may or may not sanction such action
(possibly retrospectively). Both Union and non-Union labour may stage
walkouts. Again, non-Union labour does so at its peril.
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mm - 24 Sep 2009 00:03 GMT
>>> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>>>
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>not. However, non-Union workers tend to be badly treated by employers -
>usually sacked - whereas Union strikers have some degree of protection.

Basically the same in the US

>A 'wildcat' strike is one where standard procedures (ballot / consultation /
>whatever) are not followed. The Union may or may not sanction such action
>(possibly retrospectively). Both Union and non-Union labour may stage
>walkouts. Again, non-Union labour does so at its peril.

Also basically the same.  I don't think unions can monopolize the word
strike, no matter how much they try.  Though in this case it was a
non-union guy, maybe a college teacher, I forget, saying it was not a
strike.
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Mark Brader - 23 Sep 2009 23:51 GMT
Eric Walker:
> A "strike" is generally considered to be the action of a unionized labor
> force.  The same actions taken either by unionized workers without the
> sanction of the union or by non-union workers are often called a "wildcat
> strike", but ...

I'd say a "wildcat strike" specifically means a strike in violation of
a union contract.  I don't see any reason not to call a non-union walkout
a strike, but it could not be a "wildcat strike".

Others may disagree.
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Athel Cornish-Bowden - 30 Sep 2009 19:00 GMT
>> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>>
>> Since when does there have to be a union to for people to strike.
>
> A "strike" is generally

generally? By whom? Not by me, anyway.

> considered to be the action of a unionized labor
> force.  The same actions taken either by unionized workers without the
> sanction of the union or by non-union workers are often called a "wildcat
> strike", but I suspect "walkout" is the better term.
>
> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#Categories_of_strikes

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R H Draney - 24 Sep 2009 02:26 GMT
mm filted:

>"Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>
>Since when does there have to be a union to for people to strike.

Since the union sez so; you gotta problem wit dat?...r

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semiretired@my-deja.com - 30 Sep 2009 18:45 GMT
> "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"

To make this sentence make sense, just insert
the word "official" before "strike" . I wonder if
that is what the speaker meant to say?
Bill McCray - 30 Sep 2009 19:52 GMT
> > "Technically we're not on strike since we're not uniionized"
>
> To make this sentence make sense, just insert
> the word "official" before "strike" . I wonder if
> that is what the speaker meant to say?

Or "officially" after "not".  And remove the extra "i" in
"uniionized", although that's probably just a typo.

Bill in Kentucky

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