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Hi, Could anyone tell me what "raining policy" is? I guess it means a policy without new idea, but I am sure. With thanks. Kevin >Hi, > >Could anyone tell me what "raining policy" is? I guess it means a >policy without new idea, but I am sure. With thanks. > >Kevin You haven't provided context. I suspect it's something like "It's raining policy" meaning many new policies are being proposed and/or adopted. It's a downpour of policy.  SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida Tony, You inspired me. Thanks. Kevin > Hi, > > Could anyone tell me what "raining policy" is? I guess it means a > policy without new idea, but I am sure. With thanks. > > Kevin Could it be "reigning policy" >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Could it be "reigning policy" Or "rain policy". SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years Hi, Here is the context.... It’s raining policy. Post Central government announcement of policy direction guidelines for 2010, in December 2009, various Ministries and the Shanghai local government announced detailed execution plans. Most policies are essentially the same old rabbit out of the hat: a reversion to 2007. The only new policies are those on the supply side. Demand-curbing policies remain selective and restrained. Kevin >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Kevin Looks like it should indeed be "reigning policy" as in "ruling" or "governing" policy. SignatureWork is the curse of the drinking class. >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Looks like it should indeed be "reigning policy" as in "ruling" or >"governing" policy. I disagree. I think it means that new policies[1] are coming like rain. There are lots of them. It’s raining policy. ... various Ministries and the Shanghai local government announced detailed execution plans. [1] it goes on to say that most of the new policies are actually old ones. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.english.usage) >>>Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >[1] it goes on to say that most of the new policies are actually old >ones. I'm not a big believer in Occam's razor, but I do think that when there are multiple possible interpretations of farily equal likeliehood, the one that assumes the writer spelled the word right should get priority. SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years >>>Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>Looks like it should indeed be "reigning policy" as in "ruling" or >>"governing" policy. There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". Instead I find other songs with one or the other phrase, and the hits with "raining happiness" aren't the song I'm looking for. Does anyone know what song I'm thinking of? >I disagree. I think it means that new policies[1] are coming like rain. >There are lots of them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >[1] it goes on to say that most of the new policies are actually old >ones. SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years >There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it >that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". The only reference to rain in "When You're Smiling" is: But when you're crying You bring on the rain So stop your sighing Be happy again >Instead I find other songs with one or the other phrase, and the hits >with "raining happiness" aren't the song I'm looking for. Does anyone >know what song I'm thinking of? No, but if you want allusions to things coming down like rain, look up "raining missiles". New policies can be almost as dangerous as missiles. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it >>that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "raining missiles". New policies can be almost as dangerous as > missiles. The song is something about "When the red, red robin keeps bob, bob, bobbing along." "'Cause it isn't raining rain, you know, it's raining happiness." Something like that, anyway! >>>There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it >>>that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Something like that, anyway! That's it! Thanks. FTR, it's not bobbing. It's bobbin', so it will rhyme with robin. WHEN THE RED, RED ROBIN COMES BOB, BOB, BOBBIN' ALONG (Harry Woods) Recorded by: Louis Armstrong; John Arpin; Clusone Trio; Bing Crosby; Bob Crosby; Doris Day; Dion & the Belmonts; Tennessee Ernie Ford; Dick Haymes; Susan Hayward; Victoria Jackson; Al Jolson; Barney Kessel; Julie London; Dean Martin; Carmen McRae; Sir Yehudi Menuhin; Mitch Miller; Mandy Patinkin; Sid Phillips; Wayne Potash; Renaissance; The Ritz; Willard Robinson; Whispering Jack Smith; Jo Stafford; Eva Taylor; Mel Tormé; Clarence Williams. So Al Jolson did record it. I thought so. When the Red, Red Robin Comes Bob-Bob Bobbin' Along When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along, along There'll be no more sobbin' when he starts throbbin' his old sweet song Wake up, wake up you sleepy head Get up, get out of your bed Cheer up, cheer up the sun is red Live, love, laugh and be happy What if I were blue, now I'm walking through, walking through the fields of flowers Rain may glisten but still I listen for hours and hours I'm just a kid again doing what I did again, singing a song When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along There'll be no more sobbin' when he starts throbbin' There'll be no more sobbin' when he starts a throbbin' his old sweet song Wake up, wake up you sleepy head Why don't you get up, get up, get out of bed, cheer up Live, love, laugh and be happy What if I were blue, now I'm walking through fields of flowers Rain may glisten but still I listen for hours and hours I'm just a kid again, doing what I did again, singing a song When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' When the red, red robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along Along, along, along, along, along. Wait a second. Rainin happiness is not in there. SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years >>>>There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it >>>>that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Wait a second. Rainin happiness is not in there. Yes you are right - and I was wrong! It was 'April Showers', as someone else has already pointed out. >>>>Hi, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>>>Shanghai local >>>>government announced detailed execution plans. >>>Looks like it should indeed be "reigning policy" as in "ruling" or >>>"governing" policy. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > anyone > know what song I'm thinking of? It isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining violets. So keep on smiling... >>>>>Hi, >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >It isn't raining rain, you know, >It's raining violets. That's it! Violets, happiness, they both have the same meter. I only remember iambic and trochaic, but it's something else. But that's why I couldn't remember the rest of the words. :) Thanks John, Pat, Farmer, and Tony. >So keep on smiling... I'll try. BTW, This is April Showers, also a song by Al Jolsen, Life is not a highway strewn with flowers, Still it holds a goodly share of bliss, When the sun gives way to April showers, Here's a thought that we should never miss: Though April showers May come your way, They bring the flowers That bloom in May; And if it's raining, Have no regrets; Because, it isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining violets. And when you see clouds Upon the hill, You soon will see crowds Of daffodils; So keep on looking for the bluebird, And listening for his song, Whenever April showers come along. Though April showers May come your way, They bring the flowers That bloom in May; And if it's raining, Have no regrets; Because, it isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining violets. And when you see clouds Upon the hill, You soon will see crowds Of daffodils; So keep on looking for the bluebird, And listening for his song, Whenever April showers come along. Aha, John got it too, with lyrics. SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years <snip> > That's it! Violets, happiness, they both have the same meter. > I only remember iambic and trochaic, but it's something else. Dactyl. > So keep on looking for the bluebird, > And listening for his song, Bluebird? What happened to the robin? Peter > <snip> >> That's it! Violets, happiness, they both have the same meter. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Bluebird? What happened to the robin? The bobbin was introduced in error. Bluebird is for happiness. >> <snip> >>> That's it! Violets, happiness, they both have the same meter. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> Bluebird? What happened to the robin? >The bobbin was introduced in error. Bluebird is for happiness. That's it. Or the bluebird attacked his nest and took the robin out before it was time to sing. (This might be the current children's version.) SignaturePosters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years Indianapolis 7 years Chicago 6 years Brooklyn, NY 12 years Baltimore 26 years <snip> > That's it! Violets, happiness, they both have the same meter. > > I only remember iambic and trochaic, but it's something else. They're dactyls. SignatureOdysseus > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They're dactyls. It isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining dactyls. Signature--------------------------- | BBB b \ Barbara at LivingHistory stop co stop uk | B B aa rrr b | | BBB a a r bbb | Quidquid latine dictum sit, | B B a a r b b | altum videtur. | BBB aa a r bbb | ----------------------------- > > <snip> > > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It isn't raining rain, you know, > It's raining dactyls. That doesn't scan. It isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining anapests. (Though of course both those lines are iambic.) SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > > > <snip> > > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > That doesn't scan. Indeed, but the flower that sounds rather like "dactyls" does. Woosh? > It isn't raining rain, you know, > It's raining anapests. > > (Though of course both those lines are iambic.) Signature--------------------------- | BBB b \ Barbara at LivingHistory stop co stop uk | B B aa rrr b | | BBB a a r bbb | Quidquid latine dictum sit, | B B a a r b b | altum videtur. | BBB aa a r bbb | ----------------------------- > > > > <snip> > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Indeed, but the flower that sounds rather like "dactyls" does. Woosh? There's a flower that sounds like "dactyls"? It has three syllables and sounds like "dactyls". You'll have to help me with that one. > > It isn't raining rain, you know, > > It's raining anapests. > > > > (Though of course both those lines are iambic.) SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email <snip> > > > > It isn't raining rain, you know, > > > > It's raining dactyls. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There's a flower that sounds like "dactyls"? It has three syllables > and sounds like "dactyls". You'll have to help me with that one. Its first syllable starts the same way as the substitute's, and their last syllables are pronounced almost the same as each other. SignatureOdysseus > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Its first syllable starts the same way as the substitute's, and their > last syllables are pronounced almost the same as each other. Are you suggesting that dactyl sounds like daffodil? I suppose so, for some values of dactyl. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that "John Varela" wrote that Barb Knox wrote that "John Varela" wrote that Barb Knox wrote: >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Are you suggesting that dactyl sounds like daffodil? I suppose > so, for some values of dactyl. "Film" has three syllables in Ireland (and some other places), so why can't "dactyl"...? SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed On 16 Jan 2010, HVS wrote > On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that "John > Varela" wrote that Barb Knox wrote that "John Varela" wrote that [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > "Film" has three syllables in Ireland (and some other places), so > why can't "dactyl"...? Damn. I meant "film" has *two* syllables in Ireland...so why can't "dactyl" have three? SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > On 16 Jan 2010, HVS wrote > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Damn. I meant "film" has *two* syllables in Ireland...so why can't > "dactyl" have three? You mean like "fillum"? Barb wants me to say "dactyllum"? That sounds like a microbe. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email On 17 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote >> On 16 Jan 2010, HVS wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > You mean like "fillum"? Barb wants me to say "dactyllum"? Wrong additional syllable; I was just having a bit of fun with the idea of "dac-u-tyl", on the model of fill-um, li-ber-ary, and chev- er-o-lay. > That sounds like a microbe. SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > On 17 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > idea of "dac-u-tyl", on the model of fill-um, li-ber-ary, and chev- > er-o-lay. I knew that. > > That sounds like a microbe. "Dac-u-tyl" sounds like an extinct reptile. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that "John > Varela" wrote that Barb Knox wrote that "John Varela" wrote that [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > "Film" has three syllables in Ireland (and some other places), so > why can't "dactyl"...? Are you sure you mean 3? I agree about dactyl - just like some people's "athlete" and, going one further, "umbrella". SignatureRay UK On 16 Jan 2010, musika wrote >> On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that >> "John Varela" wrote that Barb Knox wrote that "John Varela" [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Are you sure you mean 3? You're right; I've already posted my sheepish follow- up/correction. > I agree about dactyl - just like some people's "athlete" and, > going one further, "umbrella". SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> typed: >> On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that "John [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I agree about dactyl - just like some people's "athlete" and, going one > further, "umbrella". Interesting. My impression was, that English, like the other languages I know, tends to truncate, rather than add syllables. Let me see if I can guess where the extra vowels appear: film: fillum dactyl: dacutyl athlete: athulete umbrella: umburella I'm guessing that all the added vowels are schwas, represented by the added 'u's). Is my guess correct? SignatureYou'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. >> HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> typed: >>> On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that "John [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I'm guessing that all the added vowels are schwas, represented by the > added 'u's). Is my guess correct? It is, although I have never heard "dactyl" with three syllables. That was more a "if the others can have it, why not dactyl?" SignatureRay UK On 17 Jan 2010, musika wrote >>> HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> typed: >>>> On 16 Jan 2010, John Varela wrote that Odysseus wrote that [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > syllables. That was more a "if the others can have it, why not > dactyl?" Very much; meant entirely light-heartedly. SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > There's a song, I'm sure, sung maybe by Al Jolson, but I can't find it > that talks about when your smiling and "it's raining happiness". > Instead I find other songs with one or the other phrase, and the hits > with "raining happiness" aren't the song I'm looking for. Does anyone > know what song I'm thinking of? April Showers http://www.lyricsdownload.com/al-jolson-april-showers-lyrics.html Though April showers May come your way, They bring the flowers That bloom in May; And if it's raining, Have no regrets; Because, it isn't raining rain, you know, It's raining violets. And when you see clouds Upon the hill, You soon will see crowds Of daffodils; So keep on looking for the bluebird, And listening for his song, Whenever April showers come along. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email |
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