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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2010Accents again
What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? Nottinghamshire? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ApVBTX4eKc --Iain > What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? > > Nottinghamshire? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ApVBTX4eKc To me, it sounds like Percy in Blackadder the Third. Certainly not Nottinghamshire. Nottinghamshire is fairly standard East Midlands. The vowel sounds are very distinctive - quite like Gary Lineker (who's from Leicester, of course). The change from East to West Midlands is very abrupt. When I lived near Burton, it was still East, but go ten miles down the road to Lichfield or Tamworth, and you're definitely into West Midlands vowels. Regards Jonathan On Jan 16, 10:40 am, "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethisp...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > To me, it sounds like Percy in Blackadder the Third. 2nd? --iain On Jan 16, 10:40 am, "Jonathan Morton" <jonathan.mortonbutignorethisp...@btinternet.com> wrote: > "Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > To me, it sounds like Percy in Blackadder the Third. 2nd? Sorry, yes. The one where he's wearing a huge ruff, and discovers the secret of creating pure green. Regards Jonathan > On Jan 16, 10:40 am, "Jonathan Morton" > <jonathan.mortonbutignorethisp...@btinternet.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Sorry, yes. The one where he's wearing a huge ruff, and discovers the > secret of creating pure green. _Purest_ green, if memory serves.  SignatureRoland Hutchinson He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba," ... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy. --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ ) > _Purest_ green, if memory serves. I believe you're right. Back to the OP, I saw the trailer in full last night at the cinema [1]. The voice I had attributed to Percy is not Crowe's. Crowe sounds as though he is attempting a Sean Bean imitation - which might not be far wrong for Robin Hood. [1] "It's Complicated". Mediocre, but rescued by two good perfomances by Meryl Streep and Steve Martin, and a half-decent one by Alec Baldwin. Regards Jonathan > What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? > > Nottinghamshire? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ApVBTX4eKc It sounds slightly more south Lancs / south Yorks to me. Reminds me of Paul Copley - one of those actors who crops up everywhere. Try him here: http://www.meetthejoneses.co.uk/actor.asp?n=1699&sort=Male&actor=Paul%20Copley http://tinyurl.com/y9svzo7 especially as 'chatty man next door" He's from SW Yorks. SignatureJohn Dean Oxford >> What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Reminds me of Paul Copley - one of those actors who crops up everywhere. Try >him here: Doesn't sound like Nottingham or south Yorks to me. Sean Bean does a working class south Yorks in "Sharpe". Very similar to north Nottingham. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England >>> What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > working class south Yorks in "Sharpe". Very similar to north > Nottingham. I think Sean Bean (always pronounced Seen Been in our house) is from Sheffiled, so it's possibly his own accent. Russell Crowe is presumably using a 12th century Nottingham accent. SignatureDavid >>>> What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I think Sean Bean (always pronounced Seen Been in our house) is from > Sheffiled, so it's possibly his own accent. He is indeed from Sheffield and that puts his birthplace some 15 miles from the Paul Copley I cited. And examination of his work will indicate that he struggles to reproduce his own accent and pretty much gives up on anything from the wider world. And his interviews on chat shows confirm that what you hear from Sharpe's mouth is what you would hear if you were in the supporters' stand for a Sheffield United home game. However, I suspect there is some difference between a Sheffield urban accent and a general south(-west) Yorks accent much as the inner Manchester accents differ markedly from the wider Greater Manchester accents and the neighbouring south Lancs speech. > Russell Crowe is presumably using a 12th century Nottingham accent. I refer my honourable friend to the posting I made some moments ago concerning Mr Bean's linguistic range. SignatureJohn Dean Oxford >> I think Sean Bean (always pronounced Seen Been in our house) is from >> Sheffiled, so it's possibly his own accent. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > markedly from the wider Greater Manchester accents and the neighbouring > south Lancs speech. You're not wrong there. SignatureDavid >>> What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > working class south Yorks in "Sharpe". Very similar to north > Nottingham. Weel, he's a Sheffield lad and Blades supporter. SignatureRay UK > What accent Russel Crowe trying to pull here? Sounds like the same "Kiwi raised in Oz trying to sound like an Englishman" accent he used in "Master And Commander" > Sounds like the same "Kiwi raised in Oz trying to sound like an > Englishman" accent he used in "Master And Commander" Absolutely completely off-topic, but out of sheer filial pride I am compelled to mention at this point that my dad crossed the Atlantic on the ship used in that film (before the film's makers bought it off the group who'd been using it for such sailings). It took 3 weeks, for the first week and a half of which we had no contact at all, until they got to the Azores and managed a minute or two call each. He was the second-oldest crew member at age 70. I get vertiginous thinking of going up the rigging and he did it! Should you ever want to hear about it, just whisper the words 'HMS Rose' in his vicinity. <end of kvelling> cheers, Stephanie > just whisper the words 'HMS Rose' in his vicinity. Now renamed "Surprise", I gather. I envy your dad for his luck in having the opportunity to do that, and respect him for the skill and pluck it must have required at any age, let alone 70. Thank you for sharing that. (I am a big Patrick O'Brian fan.) |
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