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cuteray - 23 Jan 2010 14:26 GMT
Hello, everyone,

If you are a native speaker of English, would you please help me judge
if the following three sentences are acceptable/grammatical? Thanks.
--Ray

(1) I guess John ate rice or drank milk for breakfast.
(2) What do you guess John ate or drank milk for breakfast?
(3) What do you guess John ate rice or drank for breakfast?
Bill McCray - 23 Jan 2010 14:58 GMT
> Hello, everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> (2) What do you guess John ate or drank milk for breakfast?
> (3) What do you guess John ate rice or drank for breakfast?

#1 sounds fine, although he might have done both.

#2 and #3 are not something I would expect in English.  These would be fine:

What would you guess John had for breakfast:  rice or milk?
Would you guess that John had rice or milk for breakfast?
Would you guess that John ate rice or drank milk for breakfast?

Bill in Kentucky
Pete - 23 Jan 2010 21:43 GMT
>> Hello, everyone,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Would you guess that John had rice or milk for breakfast?
> Would you guess that John ate rice or drank milk for breakfast?

In the UK this use of 'Guess' is informal. It still sounds American,
although perhaps less so than a century ago. (Seven centuries ago it
sounded English!) In Standard English 'think' or 'suppose' are used
instead. But using 'suppose' in a question nowadays - 'What do you
suppose John ate?' - brands you a nob.

>> (1) I guess John ate rice or drank milk for breakfast.

This is grammatically correct and acceptable. (Informal, in the UK.) You
don't need 'ate' and 'drank' though. 'Had' is perfect.

US (and UK informal): I guess John had rice or milk for breakfast.
UK: I suppose John had rice or milk for breakfast.

>> (2) What do you guess John ate or drank milk for breakfast?
>> (3) What do you guess John ate rice or drank for breakfast?

These are grammatically wrong, and meaningless.

For (2) You could ask:

Do you think John ate something for breakfast, or just drank milk?

And for (3):

What do you think John had for breakfast: rice or milk?
Or
Guess what John had for breakfast: rice or milk? (THIS use of 'guess' is
Standard English.)

Peter
Glenn Knickerbocker - 24 Jan 2010 13:42 GMT
>> (1) I guess John ate rice or drank milk for breakfast.
>#1 sounds fine, although he might have done both.

In fact, if he only had milk, most people would probably say he didn't
have breakfast.

¬R   http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/bluemoon.html
"Nothing says 'Thursday' quite like Ira Fusfeld."
Athel Cornish-Bowden - 24 Jan 2010 17:33 GMT
> Hello, everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> (2) What do you guess John ate or drank milk for breakfast?
> (3) What do you guess John ate rice or drank for breakfast?

These are quite similar to some of the examples that Steven Pinker
discusses in The Language Instinct. If your English is up to it (and if
your library has a copy of the book) I would suggest you read it.

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