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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2010life abundantly lived
Hi everyone! I am afraid I am not certain about the meaning of the phrase 'life more abundantly lived'. Would you please paraphrase it for me? If we do find a totally satisfactory adjustment in life, we tend to sink into boredom. Only when our surroundings become problematic again do we wake up and feel that rush of energy which is life. And ***life more abundantly lived*** is what we seek. I wonder if 'life more abundantly lived' is the one lived with full of energy. I appreciate your help in advance. LP >Hi everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I wonder if 'life more abundantly lived' is the one lived with full of >energy. This is sloppy writing. Perhaps a life more exuberantly or enthusiastically embraced might be better  Signature(¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯) > Hi everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I appreciate your help in advance. Leaving aside that it is a split infinitive, it's pretty ambiguous. I suppose you could live a life of great abundance - or with great abundance. An abundance of something simply means a plentiful supply. > > Hi everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I think it's a quote from a work at least a century old. >> Hi everyone! >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >I suppose you could live a life of great abundance - or with great >abundance. An abundance of something simply means a plentiful supply. It is possible that the phrase was derived from or inspired by a passage in the Bible - John 10:10 (King James Version): http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A10&version=KJV I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.english.usage) > > Hi everyone! > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Leaving aside that it is a split infinitive, it's pretty ambiguous. [...] Please, if the comment about its being a split infinitive is serious (things tend to whoosh by faster now that I'm moving slower), could you direct me to the phrase containing the particle "to", a verb or verb phrase, and a word between particle and verb? Or anything else in the text that you think is a "split infinitive"> Many thanks. I agree that "abundantly" was a poor choice of adverb. SignatureBob Lieblich Abundantly confused >> > Hi everyone! >> > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I agree that "abundantly" was a poor choice of adverb. Apologies (to you and the OP). Of course you are correct. I transposed the phrase in my head into something like: 'to have more abundantly lived'. This of course - ignoring the matter of the choice of adverb - should be: 'to have lived more abundantly'. > >> > Hi everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > This of course - ignoring the matter of the choice of adverb - should be: > 'to have lived more abundantly'. For me, the phrase, "a life more abundantly lived," comes ready- wrapped in some sort of 19th century poetic context. I haven't heard it used for decades, I've only seen it in print. Regards, John Central PA, USA > > "Robert Lieblich" <r_s_liebl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > - 引用テキストを表示 - Thanks a lot for your precious and instructive comments! LP [ ... ] > > Please, if the comment about its being a split infinitive is serious > > (things tend to whoosh by faster now that I'm moving slower), could [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > This of course - ignoring the matter of the choice of adverb - should be: > 'to have lived more abundantly'. Sorry to beat an apparently dead horse, but I'm detecting signs of life. "To have more abundantly lived" is not a split infinitive either. (NTTAWWASI) The adverb has to fall innediately after "to"; otherwise, it's just a typical compound verb with an adverb or two in the middle. The true split infinitive (for those who seek them out only to extirpate then) would be "to more abundantly have lived." That's clunky, all right, but only because "to have more abundantly lived" is better -- and "to have lived more abundantly" is better than either. The issue is where to put the adverb(s), not whether some infinitive is (or even can be ) split. Compare "to boldly go where no one has gone before." No matter where you move "boldly," you weaken the sentence unless you leave it where it is (although "to go boldly" is okay and might even suit if the emphases were truly on "boldly." SignatureBob Lieblich Like a piece of stovewood >infinitive is (or even can be ) split. Compare "to boldly go where no >one has gone before." No matter where you move "boldly," you weaken >the sentence unless you leave it where it is Most people I've asked have thought "boldly to go" sounded much stronger. > >infinitive is (or even can be ) split. Compare "to boldly go where no > >one has gone before." No matter where you move "boldly," you weaken > >the sentence unless you leave it where it is > > Most people I've asked have thought "boldly to go" sounded much stronger. Every one of them is wrong. But seriously -- It's true that wrenching words out of their natural order temds to draw attention to them, but that doesn't necessarily make them stronger than usual. Most of the time, the hearer or reader soon figures out that there was no point to the inversion, other than perhaps an attempt to avoid something (the "split infinitive") that need not be avoided, and the whole thing turns out to have been just a distraction. And, as usual, the result of the poll depends on how the question is put. SignatureBob Lieblich Yeah, that's the ticket. |
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