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The Saint and the 'Tildenesque maestria'!

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Nick - 26 Feb 2010 15:25 GMT
In Enter the Saint (The Policeman with Wings) by Leslie Charteris,
there is this sentence about Simon Templar...

'He played tennis with vigour and shameless inefficiency, erratically
scrambling through weeks of rabbitry to occasional flashes of a
positively Tildenesque maestria'.

A 'rabbit' is someone who's not very good - 'rabbitry' isn't in my
COD.

Samuel Tilden was a Democratic candidate for US President who lost in
1876 owing to 'an electoral discrepancy' says the little blue Collins
Dictionary of Biography.

I haven't got a clue what 'Tildenesque maestria' means, though -
'maestria' was italicised.

Can anyone enlighten me? :-D

Nick from England
tony cooper - 26 Feb 2010 15:31 GMT
>In Enter the Saint (The Policeman with Wings) by Leslie Charteris,
>there is this sentence about Simon Templar...
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>Can anyone enlighten me? :-D

Not Samuel, but Bill.  Bill Tilden was the Number 1 tennis player in
the world for seven years running, but back in the 1920s.  He was
truly a maestria (master) in that sport.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Nick - 26 Feb 2010 15:37 GMT
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:25:18 -0800 (PST), Nick
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Thanks for solving the mystery, Tony! :-)

Nick from England
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 26 Feb 2010 15:31 GMT
>In Enter the Saint (The Policeman with Wings) by Leslie Charteris,
>there is this sentence about Simon Templar...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Can anyone enlighten me? :-D

My guess is that "maestria" is derived from "maestro" and is an invented
word meaning maestro-like actions.

Bill Tilden was a tennis player - a maestro of tennis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Tilden

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Nick - 26 Feb 2010 15:41 GMT
On Feb 26, 3:31 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:25:18 -0800 (PST), Nick
>
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>
> --

Thanks, Peter - just Googled 'maestria' - it appears to be Spanish
which is, perhaps, why it was italicised.

Nick from England
John Dean - 26 Feb 2010 16:39 GMT
> On Feb 26, 3:31 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> wrote:
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> Thanks, Peter - just Googled 'maestria' - it appears to be Spanish
> which is, perhaps, why it was italicised.

OED has it and says it's from Italian. But there are entries online that say
it's also French
http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/advanced.exe?8;s=4094402655;

Look out for references to Big Bill in Ian Johnstone's entertaining
"Wimbledon 2000" if you can still find it.
And if you're reading the Saint, do a search on Leslie Charteris - you may
surprise yourself.
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John Dean
Oxford

Nick - 27 Feb 2010 11:21 GMT
> > On Feb 26, 3:31 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> > wrote:
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> surprise yourself.
> --

Thanks - I know Leslie Charteris is half Chinese which is quite
unusual.

Nick from England
Nick - 27 Feb 2010 12:42 GMT
> > On Feb 26, 3:31 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> surprise yourself.
> --

The Wikipedia entry for Charteris looks very interesting - Big Bill
sounds like he may have been quite a character.

Nick from England
 
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