Work akin to "anachronism"?
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Alain Dekker - 08 Feb 2009 23:25 GMT I'm not sure how to ask this question, but you know how you watch a movie about, say, the Ancient Eqyptians and one of the characters is wearing a wristwatch. There's a word for that faux pas, which is, I think "anachronism".
My question is, say you were watching a movie about polar bears and they showed you, or talked about, polar bears vaching and eating Emporer penguins.
Now polar bears are strictly North Pole and Emporer penguins are strictly South Pole. This cannot happen.
What is the term, if there is one, for this, please?
Thanks, Alain
Egbert White - 09 Feb 2009 01:25 GMT >I'm not sure how to ask this question, but you know how you watch a movie >about, say, the Ancient Eqyptians and one of the characters is wearing a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >What is the term, if there is one, for this, please? Anachorism.
_The Oxford Companion to the English Language_ gives as an example tigers in Africa in an Edgar Rice Burroughs story.
Or anatopism. Onelook.com gets some hits on it. For example, with lots of quotations, <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anatopism>.
The online _Oxford English Dictionary_ calls 'anatopism' rare and has the following entry for it:
anatopism rare. A putting of a thing out of its proper place, a faulty arrangement. 1812 COLERIDGE Rem. I. 317 In arranging which [books] the puzzled librarian must commit an anachronism in order to avoid an anatopism. 1850 DE QUINCEY Wks. XVI. 72 Geographical blunders, or what might be called anatopisms.
_OED_ has:
anachorism nonce-wd. Something out of place in, or foreign to, the country. 1862 LOWELL Bigl. Papers Ser. II. 55 Opinions [that are] anachronisms and anachorisms, foreign both to the age and the country.
Interesting to see, both words are formed on Greek roots, and '-top-' and '-chor-' are both Greek roots meaning 'place' according to the _OED_ etymologies.
By the way, I would have thought there !were! tigers in Africa, but some Wikipedia hits say no, not naturally.
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Egbert White - 09 Feb 2009 18:30 GMT >I'm not sure how to ask this question, There's a way to not ask it, and that's to post it separately to more than one newsgroup. You posted it under different subject lines to ALE and AUE. If you want to post to more than one newsgroup, proper netiquette says to crosspost. It saves bandwidth as compared to posting separately.
>but you know how you watch a movie >about, say, the Ancient Eqyptians and one of the characters is wearing a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >What is the term, if there is one, for this, please? You've had answers in both newsgroups, 'anatopism' and 'anachorism.' The former seems preferable to me, since there are other '-top-' words to keep it company ('topography,' 'toponym,' plus many less familiar words in which 'top-' means 'place.').
The roots '-top-' and '-chor-' can both mean 'place' in Greek. A wild-card search on '*chor*' in a shorter Oxford gets lots of hits, but none of them seem to use '-chor-' for 'place.' I wonder if there are some that I missed in the long list, or some that the wild-card search didn't find.
It seems strange to me that 'anatopism' is rare (as stated in a shorter Oxford). I should think it would find about as much use as 'anachronism.' This makes me wonder if there's a more common term to refer to something that's geographically misplaced, one that hasn't surfaced yet in this thread.
Incidentally, it seems worthwhile to mention here 'parachronism,' anticipating a time when some reader may be curious to know a term that refers to something from an earlier time that's unlikely still to occur at the time to which the context refers. It could be thought of as the opposite of 'anachronism.' Witch trials in 21st-century Salem would be a parachronism. Television in 17th-century Salem would be an anachronism.
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Alain Dekker - 15 Feb 2009 14:39 GMT Just got back from holiday to read this answer...thanks very much! I shall try to find a chance to use this term at least once this week! :o) However, at my work, the use of words like "anatopism" is likely to be one more example of an anatopism!
Regards, Alain
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> I'm not sure how to ask this question, but you know how you watch a movie > about, say, the Ancient Eqyptians and one of the characters is wearing a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks, > Alain Bob Cunningham - 04 Jan 2010 18:58 GMT [nonresponsive response omitted]
>> I'm not sure how to ask this question, but you know how you watch a movie >> about, say, the Ancient Eqyptians and one of the characters is wearing a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> What is the term, if there is one, for this, please? In case no one has given you a word, "anatopism" seems to be what you want. I don't find it in a couple of American dictionaries, but it's in the British _New Shorter Oxford_:
anatopism [...] n. rare. E19. [f. Gk ANA- + topos place + -ISM.] A putting of a thing out of its proper place.
See also a Wikipedia article at <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatopism>.
And <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anatopism>
There's a less helpful definition of "anatopism" in a medical dictionary at <http://www.mondofacto.com/facts/dictionary?anatopism>:
anatopism medical dictionary Failure to conform to the cultural pattern. Origin: G. Ana, backward, + topos, place
 Signature Bob Cunningham, Southern California, USA. Western American English
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