A question for Rey
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Stuart Chapman - 27 Mar 2006 08:58 GMT Dear Rey,
Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is.
Thankyou.
Stupot
Alexei A. Frounze - 27 Mar 2006 09:18 GMT > Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. One probably needs to know all cultures and their languages to answer that.
:) To some the worst curse may be about the Virgin Maria. To someone else it maybe some word whose meaning can't even be explained easily. It may be religious or personal. It maybe something disgusting or something about mental abilities. It's different. You need to sample many (the most) to come up with a few more or less common offensive words and phrases.
Alex
Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 27 Mar 2006 09:25 GMT > Dear Rey, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Stupot Sorry, there isn't such an animal. Every language, society, and culture has specific taboos and "offensive" words that violate such taboos. Worldwide, the three big groups of taboos deal with Family, Religion, and Sex & Excretion (and combinations thereof).
~~~ Rey ~~~
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Ross Howard - 27 Mar 2006 09:31 GMT >> Dear Rey, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Worldwide, the three big groups of taboos deal with Family, Religion, >and Sex & Excretion (and combinations thereof). As Rey knows very well, Spanish is hard to beat for exotic cocktails of the big taboo groups. Here are three of the big four in a single (and in Spain very common indeed) insult:
*¡Me cago [excretion] en tu puta [sex] madre [family]!*
Regular readers of AUE will also remember how that little old lady who doesn't need any help with those heavy bags showed an excellent grasp of the double-whammy approach when she said, in effect, "Go f.ck [sex] yo mudda [fam]!"
-- Ross Howard
Mike Lyle - 27 Mar 2006 17:50 GMT [...]
> As Rey knows very well, Spanish is hard to beat for exotic cocktails > of the big taboo groups. Here are three of the big four in a single > (and in Spain very common indeed) insult: > > *¡Me cago [excretion] en tu puta [sex] madre [family]!* [...]
There's also the gauchoesque "I sh.t in the milk of the Madonna!" Of course that's milder than your example, especially out on the Pampa.
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R J Valentine - 27 Mar 2006 15:23 GMT } Stuart Chapman wrote: } }> Dear Rey, }> }> Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. }> }> Thankyou. }> }> Stupot } } Sorry, there isn't such an animal. Every language, society, and culture } has specific taboos and "offensive" words that violate such taboos. } Worldwide, the three big groups of taboos deal with Family, Religion, } and Sex & Excretion (and combinations thereof).
Please.
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 03:21 GMT > } Stuart Chapman wrote: > } [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Please. You've mentioned that before, but I don't know your objection. If you don't mind, kindly explain it, will you? TIA.
"For me" annoys me a lot more. "Could you put your tray table up for me, sir?" Anything for you, of course, but in this case I'll do it just because you reminded me of the announcement.
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R J Valentine - 31 Mar 2006 14:12 GMT } R J Valentine wrote: }> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:25:13 -0800 "Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <aman@sonic.net> wrote: }> }> } Stuart Chapman wrote: }> } }> }> Dear Rey, }> }> }> }> Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. }> }> }> }> Thankyou. }> }> }> }> Stupot }> } }> } Sorry, there isn't such an animal. Every language, society, and culture }> } has specific taboos and "offensive" words that violate such taboos. }> } Worldwide, the three big groups of taboos deal with Family, Religion, }> } and Sex & Excretion (and combinations thereof). }> }> Please. } } You've mentioned that before, but I don't know your objection. If you } don't mind, kindly explain it, will you? TIA. } } "For me" annoys me a lot more. "Could you put your tray table up for } me, sir?" Anything for you, of course, but in this case I'll do it } just because you reminded me of the announcement.
That's the idea. How about when someone says, "I said, 'Please,'" in that whiney tone they get? First of all, English usage is saddled with a "please" word that is a quasi-imperative verb in form, where other languages have more of an "if you please" or "I beg you" sort of form. Then children are taught that it is a magic word that they can expect results from (so you'll observe a child standing in front of someone impatiently saying, "Excuse me, please!"). When someone says to you, "Sir, step out of the car, please," you're not being asked politely; you're being given the opportunity to make peace with your god.
So, when the Schimpfmeister calls me an a.shole or some sort of Nazi or a coward or paranoid or when he reminds us again of a physical affliction I happen to have to deal with, we know it's all good, clean fun. But let him throw a "please" at me, and I'll know he has lost all respect for me.
Even a flight attendant knows to use helping verbs and couch it as a personal favor that's being asked. Contrast that with the snow-storm episode of _Third Rock from the Sun_ when Barbara the flight attendant says to Dick, "Please sit down."
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 22:50 GMT > } R J Valentine wrote: > }> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:25:13 -0800 "Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <aman@sonic.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > "Sir, step out of the car, please," you're not being asked politely; > you're being given the opportunity to make peace with your god. Well, the "sir" is just as bad. "Thank you" can also be offensive, in certain situations and certain tones of voice.
> So, when the Schimpfmeister calls me an a.shole or some sort of Nazi or a > coward or paranoid or when he reminds us again of a physical affliction I > happen to have to deal with, we know it's all good, clean fun. But let > him throw a "please" at me, and I'll know he has lost all respect for me. That's called leading with your chin.
> Even a flight attendant knows to use helping verbs and couch it as a > personal favor that's being asked. I'd rather have been asked, "Could you please put your tray table up, sir?" Considering that the situation was my fault, I wouldn't have minded a touch of weariness in the "please". It's the personal-favor part that annoys me.
> Contrast that with the snow-storm > episode of _Third Rock from the Sun_ when Barbara the flight attendant > says to Dick, "Please sit down." No! 'Cause you didn't say the magic word. Also because I haven't seen that show. (I heard it was good, though.)
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Stuart Chapman - 28 Mar 2006 09:56 GMT >> Dear Rey, >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/biblio-14.html > http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/contents13.html Seriously, I know that's true. Its just that many of your recent posts have contained a bit of bile, and I was hoping to see you at your best.
Could you beat R. Lee Ermey in an insulting competition?
Stupot
Ken Cashion - 27 Mar 2006 15:33 GMT >Dear Rey, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Stupot I didn't care for Rey's answer so let me give it a shot.
Word?
It would have to be at least offensive enough to have me killed as soon as it came out of my mouth...or soon after it came from my keyboard.
I would think that there may be just one word that would cause an Islamist to react quickly and violently.
That word could be determined.
Go for it, Rey!
Ken
Peter Moylan - 28 Mar 2006 14:26 GMT > I would think that there may be just one word that would cause an > Islamist to react quickly and violently. > > That word could be determined. > > Go for it, Rey! Alternatively, one might ask whether there is a word that would cause Rey to react quickly and violently. In respect for Rey I won't write the word, but it starts with an "M".
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Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer reliably receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet address still has about 4 months of life left.
Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 28 Mar 2006 20:55 GMT Peter Moylan écrit/schreef:
> > I would think that there may be just one word that would > > cause an Islamist to react quickly and violently.
> > That word could be determined.
> > Go for it, Rey!
> Alternatively, one might ask whether there is a word that would cause > Rey to react quickly and violently. In respect for Rey I won't write > the word, but it starts with an "M". Peter! How could you do this to me? Haven't I asked you time & again never to bring up "Milwaukee"?
Je suis très fâché, mon vieux.
~~~ Rey ~~~
Al in Dallas - 30 Mar 2006 18:24 GMT >Peter Moylan écrit/schreef: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Je suis très fâché, mon vieux. I posted in 2003 trying to explain to Mike Oliver what the whole Mimi thing was, and Rey responded by flaming Tony Cooper and Padraig Breathnach. He was gentle with me, though. Go figure!
http://google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/fffd33db44bb9f7a
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Peter Moylan - 31 Mar 2006 04:13 GMT On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:55:50 -0800, "Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <aman@sonic.net> wrote:
> Peter Moylan écrit/schreef: > >> Alternatively, one might ask whether there is a word that would >> cause Rey to react quickly and violently. In respect for Rey I >> won't write the word, but it starts with an "M".
> Peter! How could you do this to me? Haven't I asked you time & > again never to bring up "Milwaukee"? Actually, I was thinking of the comedienne Minnie Ha-ha.
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Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer reliably receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet address still has about 4 months of life left.
Pat Durkin - 27 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT > Dear Rey, > > Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. It's not a word. It's "Sniff", combined with a (a) rolled eye, (b) turned back, or (c) sneer.
Spehro Pefhany - 27 Mar 2006 18:10 GMT >> Dear Rey, >> >> Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. > >It's not a word. It's "Sniff", combined with a (a) rolled eye, (b) >turned back, or (c) sneer. There are times and places when and where a prolonged stare could get you killed. And languages where simply saying "your mother" (depending on context and how you say it) could have a similar result.
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
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Ken Cashion - 27 Mar 2006 18:22 GMT >> Dear Rey, >> >> Please tell me what the most offensive word in the world is. > >It's not a word. It's "Sniff", combined with a (a) rolled eye, (b) >turned back, or (c) sneer. "Who can refute a sneer?" (Not original -- William Paley.)
"Who can refute the rolled eye?" (Original -- parody.)
I rarely remember the speakers of the quotes I know but I knew William Paley said that because he is not William S. Paley. I know about William S. because he took care of one of my favorite people, Louise Brooks. (Jeez! Did that ever shoot this off to Never-Never Land!)
Ken
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