Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion GroupsEnglish UsageBritish EnglishESL Teaching
Learnglish.com
Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map

Discussion Groups / English Usage / March 2006



Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

What is Gender Feminism?

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Xah Lee - 31 Mar 2006 02:37 GMT
What Is Gender Feminism?

Xah Lee, 200404

In the society of human animals of latest century, there is feminism,
and there is gender feminism. Feminism is concerned about the equal
opportunity and fair treatment for both men and women. Specifically,
raise the status of women from their traditional roles and weak
positions for modern society. What they have done are for example,
women's right to own properties as men can, to participate in
conferences with men (aka voting), free women from freedom restraints,
not be considered as secondary to males, bring education to women. (all
these in the context of Occidental sphere.)

On the other hand, Gender Feminism has risen as a offshoot of feminism
in about, i dunno, late 1990 of America, lead in part by butch dykes,
and is engulfing and overtaking the traditional feminism. As we have
seen in our forum, gender feminists's concerns are about equal outcome
and equal sex. Aside from cutting off dicks of men, they tend to want
not any manifestation of sex in human animals. The things gender
feminists hang on their mouths or do are: women-hurting patriarchy,
rape of women's will, glorification of mentruation and c.nt, demand
more women in military and with special protections, formalize
flirting, erect sexual laws to equate sex, drill she and he
in language, promote gay rights  in particular of dykes who are
really men in the wrong body.

Feminism, as opposed to Gender Feminism, is not entirely dead, but is a
endangered specie. Some Feminists are now harrassed and forced-on
anti-feminism hats. Feminism as a movement is largely hijacked to
mean Gender Feministic ideals. As usual, a small percentage of
righteousness-sensitive people such as students and mawkish men, are
brain-washed into gender feministic world view. These minority but
often activists believe, as with most American one-track-minded
bleeding-heartism, that terrible things has been done, and justice must
be retributed by all means.

To be fair, i must say that i'm not yet very pessimistic about the
future on the issues of men and women. Because, even though the gender
feministic morons cry out loud and have done US wrong, but in general a
more massive and evil thing that is taking place in America is
putting it a check: Consumerism and Egoism. Each girl (and man), even
though might be influenced by Gender Feministic propaganda, each on the
whole is still mostly concerned about oneself and acts out in accords
to her or his own interests. And under our fantastic and wonderful
American capitalistic consumerism, girls and men are automatically
materialistic and selfish, which oftentimes are at odds with the
manifesto of gender feministism. (as we can see here that a thread
Consistency between beliefs and behaviors? has been raised.)
Meanwhile, i'm also glad that there are still some people in America
who possesses a thinking brain, including quite a lot of females, who
find it uneasy when the word feminism is uttered that has today's
connotations. (as we can see here in Rhondea's story and SCUM and
Misogyny and Masculism forums.) And, in our very Feminists forum,
i'm happy to note that there are still traditional feminists, and those
gender-feministically brain-washed are still savable, and a vast number
of non-White, non-American women who stayed quiet in the background who
simply wished a good life without the White Supreme Western
loud-mouthing ax-griding persecuting heart-bleeding
cat-mourning-over-mouse's-pain gender feminists doing whatever it is
that they are onto.

(btw, has anybody watched Kill Bill 2 that's selling rampantly in the
Consumeristic America? What a.s kicking blondes they have there. And
the Chinese sage characterized American (WASP) women as: bitchs all
they do is spending men's money. (quote inexact) Does anyone think
it is entirely bogus?)

'tis of the age
of Gender Feminists
hitting the American stage
questioning she and he
extols the queer and weird
and axing the womanly and manly
upon a glittering postmodernity
   Xah Lee, 2004-04

----
This post is archived at:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/t2/gender_feminism.html

  Xah
  xah@xahlee.org
 http://xahlee.org/
davidsands@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 03:05 GMT
There are precious few "gender feminists" in today's world. Most women
are concerned with advancing on the job, not being sexually harrassed
or discriminated against, and trying to juggle the roles of
wage-earner, mother and wife. The militant feminism of which you speak
died in the early 80's, except in the minds of men who can't quite make
it with women, and then it stands out like a sore thumb, a castrating
boogeyfemme, when the only castrating is self-inflicted by archaic
attitudes about the relationships between men and women.
Non-humorous Jinn - 31 Mar 2006 03:44 GMT
If you want your wife to play with your a.s,
just say so...

Women are pretty easy that way.

Signature

AJ - http://clitin.com
    (the biggest clit in pornetry)
Sat.Map: http://tinyurl.com/cjo5b

> There are precious few "gender feminists" in today's world. Most women
> are concerned with advancing on the job, not being sexually harrassed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> boogeyfemme, when the only castrating is self-inflicted by archaic
> attitudes about the relationships between men and women.
davidsands@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 03:49 GMT
TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't
understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this
inexplicability
Non-humorous Jinn - 31 Mar 2006 04:25 GMT
Now /I'm/ inscrutable?

At one time I had a gf that did phone-sex
for a living. I used to listen to her.

Amazing what some people di-dee-di-dee do.

Signature

AJ - http://clitin.com
    (the biggest clit in pornetry)
Sat.Map: http://tinyurl.com/cjo5b

> TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't
> understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this
> inexplicability
Robert Lieblich - 31 Mar 2006 04:38 GMT
> Xah Lee, 200404

AUE, nil.

[ ... ]

Signature

Bob Lieblich
He's got us, folks

Raymond S. Wise - 31 Mar 2006 07:47 GMT
[Crossposted groups dropped.]

[..]

> in about, i dunno, late 1990 of America, lead in part by butch dykes,

> To be fair, i must say that i'm not yet very pessimistic about the

If this was posted to alt.usage.english on the basis that there is a
usage question involved, I'd like to point out that in English the
subjective form of the first-person pronoun is capitalized.

Since you are not a newbie here in alt.usage.english , I feel
comfortable in asking you the following: Why don't you capitalize that
pronoun? Wasn't the capitalization of "I" one of the very first things
you learned when you began to learn English (just as one of the first
things I learned when I began to learn French is that the language is
spelled "le français" in that language)? This should be true both of
native speakers and of non-native speakers of English learning to write
the language.

--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com
Xah Lee - 31 Mar 2006 23:16 GMT
IRaymond wrote:

   ... I'd like to point out that in English the subjective form of
the first-person pronoun is capitalized. ... Why don't you capitalize
that pronoun? Wasn't the capitalization of "I" one of the very first
things you learned when you began to learn English...

Because i feel it is redundant. The only good reason to cap I is for
convention and tradition, and i snub tradition or convention when they
snub logic and efficiency.

Actually, not because i feel it is redundant. But because it is
redundant, period. The I Feel there is just a manner of
expression by convention. In this case, a hint of politeness.

Of course, if we delve deeper into the issue, the other reason is
because this unconventionality fits me. In other words, as we can see,
languages are tools of communication not in as much as for
communicating what we consider content, but also manners and attitudes
aside from a host of other things implicit among which demeanor or
bearing. So when one sees that i use i as opposed to I, the syntactical
incorrectness isn't focal, but a attitude, in this case, a willful one.

The first time when i ran into writings that consistently used lower
case i is when back in the early 1990s on CompuServe online math forum
there's this mathematician woman from UK. I found it very annoying and
the idiosyncratic little i impeded my reading, and my thought is that
there is no reason to break the convention and one should not act weird
just so one can stand out. That was when i was a know-nothing brat and
meanwhile am eagerly learning things and am fairly conformal. At the
time nor do i have any inkling why i is capitalized in the first place.

The second time i saw consistent use of i is in late 1990s by
programer(s) on computing forums. By the late 1990s, the ease of not
having to type a Shift Key as extra to produce the letter i and
by the grass root power of programers by the auspice of the internet
boom , have contributed to a lot lower case i then. Perhaps around 2000
i myself started to do away with pressing the Shift Key in emails and
forum posts. By this time the lower case i no longer impedes readings.
In formal writings i would absolutely revert to I as i would feel
ashamed and a fool if i were to write i instead of I
because there is still a sense of I being correct or
educated somehow.

Starting about 2000, for some personal reasons i started to learn
tremendously of issues and businesses related to the human animals, of
which i was rather quite ignorant of anything outside of mathematics
and the sciences and technologies. I started to learn about economics,
anthropology, futurism, and all sorts of other miscellaneous things
about cultures, behaviors, psychology, society. Among which is more
understanding towards social linguistics about why languages evolve the
way they do and how human animals use their languages. And from these
collective learnings  however comparatively insignificant with
respect to the various respective experts  combined with my eminent
knowledge of symbolic logic and math things, on the issue of i
versus I i have become firm about the uselessness of its
capitalization. Even in formal writings, the need to press the Shift
Key to produce capital I somehow are eroded by laziness, habitualness,
and increasingly a sense of its folly.

Today, there are a few reasons for me to use lower case i. For one
thing, it is no-nonsense typing. For another, it snubs academicians and
grammarians and conventions and traditions like a giant neon sign. It
is a good setup for me to lash out at unwary pedants on almost
assuredly their ignorance of logic and linguistics and syntax and
semantics and a host and shades of theories related to communication.
For another, it is more logical and sound, all things considered, and i
believe it should be practiced so. (future linguistic historians out
there: don't forget where you read it first)

O, wiles and arts, how beautiful you are.
----
this post is archived at:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/bangu/i_vs_I.html

  Xah
  xah@xahlee.org
 http://xahlee.org/
Jude - 31 Mar 2006 14:05 GMT
What Is Gender Feminism?

'tis of the age
of Gender Feminists
hitting the American stage
questioning she and he
extols the queer and weird
and axing the womanly and manly
upon a glittering postmodernity
   -Xah Lee, 2004-04

What kind of arrogant nincompoop quotes himself?  lol

I agree with David Sands about gender feminism.  It's either dead or nearly
dead.
chris_tine49@hotmail.com - 31 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT
> What Is Gender Feminism?
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> materialistic and selfish, which oftentimes are at odds with the
> manifesto of gender feministism.

You would prefer that women be interested and act in accord with the
interests of others because materialism is bad.

And  gender feminism is opposed to materialism. . .

Doesn't that make you a gender feminist?

I'm so confused.

Christine (no, wait: maybe it's not about me. . .)
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2012 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.