What is Gender Feminism?
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Xah Lee - 31 Mar 2006 02:37 GMT What Is Gender Feminism?
Xah Lee, 200404
In the society of human animals of latest century, there is feminism, and there is gender feminism. Feminism is concerned about the equal opportunity and fair treatment for both men and women. Specifically, raise the status of women from their traditional roles and weak positions for modern society. What they have done are for example, women's right to own properties as men can, to participate in conferences with men (aka voting), free women from freedom restraints, not be considered as secondary to males, bring education to women. (all these in the context of Occidental sphere.)
On the other hand, Gender Feminism has risen as a offshoot of feminism in about, i dunno, late 1990 of America, lead in part by butch dykes, and is engulfing and overtaking the traditional feminism. As we have seen in our forum, gender feminists's concerns are about equal outcome and equal sex. Aside from cutting off dicks of men, they tend to want not any manifestation of sex in human animals. The things gender feminists hang on their mouths or do are: women-hurting patriarchy, rape of women's will, glorification of mentruation and c.nt, demand more women in military and with special protections, formalize flirting, erect sexual laws to equate sex, drill she and he in language, promote gay rights in particular of dykes who are really men in the wrong body.
Feminism, as opposed to Gender Feminism, is not entirely dead, but is a endangered specie. Some Feminists are now harrassed and forced-on anti-feminism hats. Feminism as a movement is largely hijacked to mean Gender Feministic ideals. As usual, a small percentage of righteousness-sensitive people such as students and mawkish men, are brain-washed into gender feministic world view. These minority but often activists believe, as with most American one-track-minded bleeding-heartism, that terrible things has been done, and justice must be retributed by all means.
To be fair, i must say that i'm not yet very pessimistic about the future on the issues of men and women. Because, even though the gender feministic morons cry out loud and have done US wrong, but in general a more massive and evil thing that is taking place in America is putting it a check: Consumerism and Egoism. Each girl (and man), even though might be influenced by Gender Feministic propaganda, each on the whole is still mostly concerned about oneself and acts out in accords to her or his own interests. And under our fantastic and wonderful American capitalistic consumerism, girls and men are automatically materialistic and selfish, which oftentimes are at odds with the manifesto of gender feministism. (as we can see here that a thread Consistency between beliefs and behaviors? has been raised.) Meanwhile, i'm also glad that there are still some people in America who possesses a thinking brain, including quite a lot of females, who find it uneasy when the word feminism is uttered that has today's connotations. (as we can see here in Rhondea's story and SCUM and Misogyny and Masculism forums.) And, in our very Feminists forum, i'm happy to note that there are still traditional feminists, and those gender-feministically brain-washed are still savable, and a vast number of non-White, non-American women who stayed quiet in the background who simply wished a good life without the White Supreme Western loud-mouthing ax-griding persecuting heart-bleeding cat-mourning-over-mouse's-pain gender feminists doing whatever it is that they are onto.
(btw, has anybody watched Kill Bill 2 that's selling rampantly in the Consumeristic America? What a.s kicking blondes they have there. And the Chinese sage characterized American (WASP) women as: bitchs all they do is spending men's money. (quote inexact) Does anyone think it is entirely bogus?)
'tis of the age of Gender Feminists hitting the American stage questioning she and he extols the queer and weird and axing the womanly and manly upon a glittering postmodernity Xah Lee, 2004-04
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davidsands@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 03:05 GMT There are precious few "gender feminists" in today's world. Most women are concerned with advancing on the job, not being sexually harrassed or discriminated against, and trying to juggle the roles of wage-earner, mother and wife. The militant feminism of which you speak died in the early 80's, except in the minds of men who can't quite make it with women, and then it stands out like a sore thumb, a castrating boogeyfemme, when the only castrating is self-inflicted by archaic attitudes about the relationships between men and women.
Non-humorous Jinn - 31 Mar 2006 03:44 GMT If you want your wife to play with your a.s, just say so...
Women are pretty easy that way.
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> There are precious few "gender feminists" in today's world. Most women > are concerned with advancing on the job, not being sexually harrassed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boogeyfemme, when the only castrating is self-inflicted by archaic > attitudes about the relationships between men and women. davidsands@yahoo.com - 31 Mar 2006 03:49 GMT TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this inexplicability
Non-humorous Jinn - 31 Mar 2006 04:25 GMT Now /I'm/ inscrutable?
At one time I had a gf that did phone-sex for a living. I used to listen to her.
Amazing what some people di-dee-di-dee do.
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> TheSevenDeadlyJinns and/or OriginalJinn wrote something I don't > understand. Perhaps he/she/them/it/il can provide a key to this > inexplicability Robert Lieblich - 31 Mar 2006 04:38 GMT > Xah Lee, 200404 AUE, nil.
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Raymond S. Wise - 31 Mar 2006 07:47 GMT [Crossposted groups dropped.]
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> in about, i dunno, late 1990 of America, lead in part by butch dykes,
> To be fair, i must say that i'm not yet very pessimistic about the If this was posted to alt.usage.english on the basis that there is a usage question involved, I'd like to point out that in English the subjective form of the first-person pronoun is capitalized.
Since you are not a newbie here in alt.usage.english , I feel comfortable in asking you the following: Why don't you capitalize that pronoun? Wasn't the capitalization of "I" one of the very first things you learned when you began to learn English (just as one of the first things I learned when I began to learn French is that the language is spelled "le français" in that language)? This should be true both of native speakers and of non-native speakers of English learning to write the language.
-- Raymond S. Wise Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
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Xah Lee - 31 Mar 2006 23:16 GMT IRaymond wrote:
... I'd like to point out that in English the subjective form of the first-person pronoun is capitalized. ... Why don't you capitalize that pronoun? Wasn't the capitalization of "I" one of the very first things you learned when you began to learn English...
Because i feel it is redundant. The only good reason to cap I is for convention and tradition, and i snub tradition or convention when they snub logic and efficiency.
Actually, not because i feel it is redundant. But because it is redundant, period. The I Feel there is just a manner of expression by convention. In this case, a hint of politeness.
Of course, if we delve deeper into the issue, the other reason is because this unconventionality fits me. In other words, as we can see, languages are tools of communication not in as much as for communicating what we consider content, but also manners and attitudes aside from a host of other things implicit among which demeanor or bearing. So when one sees that i use i as opposed to I, the syntactical incorrectness isn't focal, but a attitude, in this case, a willful one.
The first time when i ran into writings that consistently used lower case i is when back in the early 1990s on CompuServe online math forum there's this mathematician woman from UK. I found it very annoying and the idiosyncratic little i impeded my reading, and my thought is that there is no reason to break the convention and one should not act weird just so one can stand out. That was when i was a know-nothing brat and meanwhile am eagerly learning things and am fairly conformal. At the time nor do i have any inkling why i is capitalized in the first place.
The second time i saw consistent use of i is in late 1990s by programer(s) on computing forums. By the late 1990s, the ease of not having to type a Shift Key as extra to produce the letter i and by the grass root power of programers by the auspice of the internet boom , have contributed to a lot lower case i then. Perhaps around 2000 i myself started to do away with pressing the Shift Key in emails and forum posts. By this time the lower case i no longer impedes readings. In formal writings i would absolutely revert to I as i would feel ashamed and a fool if i were to write i instead of I because there is still a sense of I being correct or educated somehow.
Starting about 2000, for some personal reasons i started to learn tremendously of issues and businesses related to the human animals, of which i was rather quite ignorant of anything outside of mathematics and the sciences and technologies. I started to learn about economics, anthropology, futurism, and all sorts of other miscellaneous things about cultures, behaviors, psychology, society. Among which is more understanding towards social linguistics about why languages evolve the way they do and how human animals use their languages. And from these collective learnings however comparatively insignificant with respect to the various respective experts combined with my eminent knowledge of symbolic logic and math things, on the issue of i versus I i have become firm about the uselessness of its capitalization. Even in formal writings, the need to press the Shift Key to produce capital I somehow are eroded by laziness, habitualness, and increasingly a sense of its folly.
Today, there are a few reasons for me to use lower case i. For one thing, it is no-nonsense typing. For another, it snubs academicians and grammarians and conventions and traditions like a giant neon sign. It is a good setup for me to lash out at unwary pedants on almost assuredly their ignorance of logic and linguistics and syntax and semantics and a host and shades of theories related to communication. For another, it is more logical and sound, all things considered, and i believe it should be practiced so. (future linguistic historians out there: don't forget where you read it first)
O, wiles and arts, how beautiful you are. ---- this post is archived at: http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/bangu/i_vs_I.html
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Jude - 31 Mar 2006 14:05 GMT What Is Gender Feminism?
'tis of the age of Gender Feminists hitting the American stage questioning she and he extols the queer and weird and axing the womanly and manly upon a glittering postmodernity -Xah Lee, 2004-04
What kind of arrogant nincompoop quotes himself? lol
I agree with David Sands about gender feminism. It's either dead or nearly dead.
chris_tine49@hotmail.com - 31 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT > What Is Gender Feminism? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > materialistic and selfish, which oftentimes are at odds with the > manifesto of gender feministism. You would prefer that women be interested and act in accord with the interests of others because materialism is bad.
And gender feminism is opposed to materialism. . .
Doesn't that make you a gender feminist?
I'm so confused.
Christine (no, wait: maybe it's not about me. . .)
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