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Discussion Groups / English Usage / November 2006"Verguenza Ajena"
Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises anglófonos no saben lo que es el concepto de Verguenza Ajena ... Fijaros por ejemplo en Jorton ... Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? >Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? >A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises >anglófonos no saben lo que es el concepto de Verguenza Ajena ... >Fijaros por ejemplo en Jorton ... I don't think there is a direct translation; we just say things like "it was really embarrassing" or "I didn't know where to look". >Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? How about "hick"? -- THE "If you or I use a word inappropriately, that's an error. If a newspaper uses a word inappropriately, that's a citation source for the dictionaries." -- Peter Moylan > >Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? > >A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't think there is a direct translation; we just say things like > "it was really embarrassing" or "I didn't know where to look". Or, "I was embarrassed for [whoever]". -- John How about: un‧couth /ʌnˈkuθ/ Pronunciation[uhn-kooth] –adjective 1. awkward, clumsy, or unmannerly: uncouth behavior; an uncouth relative who embarrasses the family. 2. strange and ungraceful in appearance or form. 3. unusual or strange. [Origin: bef. 900; ME; OE uncūth (see un-1, couth2); c. D onkond] —Related forms un‧couth‧ly, adverb un‧couth‧ness, noun —Synonyms 1. discourteous, rude, uncivil. See boorish. 3. odd, unfamiliar. —Antonyms 1. courteous. > >Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? > >A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > uses a word inappropriately, that's a citation source for the dictionaries." > -- Peter Moylan When someone else does something so stupid/awful that you are embarrassed FOR them.... and usually, they don't have enough sense to be embarrassed for themselves.  Signature-Cozy http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=cozy_at_home Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things you can find* :) > >Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? > >A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises > >anglófonos no saben lo que es el concepto de Verguenza Ajena ... > >Fijaros por ejemplo en Jorton ... > When someone else does something so stupid/awful that you are embarrassed > FOR them.... and usually, they don't have enough sense to be embarrassed for > themselves. Right. So, the expression would be "to be embarrassed FOR them" Thanx > Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things you > can find* :) This, i don't get it... > Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things you > can find* :) This, i don't get it... (end quote) ha, ha, you'd have to be a person trying to declutter to 'get it' :) Signature-Cozy http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=cozy_at_home http://forums.delphiforums.com/crochetplus/start Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things you can find* :) > > When someone else does something so stupid/awful that you are embarrassed > > FOR them.... and usually, they don't have enough sense to be embarrassed for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > can find* :) > This, i don't get it... > > Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things > you > > can find* :) > This, i don't get it... > (end quote) ha, ha, you'd have to be a person trying to declutter to 'get > it' :) Now I get it... :) "RafaMinu" <rafaminu@gmail.com> wrote in > Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? "Second-hand embarrassment". :-) > Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? "Mr. Gurriato". :-D =.=.=.=.=. Begoluna =.=.==.= > "RafaMinu" <rafaminu@gmail.com> wrote in > >> Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? > > "Second-hand embarrassment". :-) Muy nice, che. Pero creo que hay dos formas principales de traducir "vergüenza ajena" 1- To feel embarrased for somebody 2 - To feel (the) shame for somebody re: I felt the shame he brought upon himself/ for what he did. Sometiemes: we all share in his shame. Esas son las expresiones idiomáticas que más se ajustan, me pare. Saluti, Oscar >> Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Begoluna > =.=.==.= Iberico Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? > Iberico > > Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? Jí jí. "Yokel"? We used to describe street-corner loiterers as "Local pukes with their hands in their pockets". Some connection to "sh.t-kicker", I suppose. SignatureFrank ess "Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com> wrote in news:6tOdnXaQnZ7OFKvYnZ2dnUVZ_u- >> "RafaMinu" <rafaminu@gmail.com> wrote in message >> Bueno, y ya que estamos, como traduciriais "paleto" ? > "Yokel"? En inglés USAno: redneck. :-) Yoy might be a redneck if... -You think Sherlock Holmes is a housing project down in Biloxi -You think Taco Bell is the Mexican Phone Company -You think a Volvo is part of a woman's anatomy -You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk -You've been married three times and still have the same in-laws -You think Genitalia is an Italian airline -It's easier to spray weed killer on your lawn than mow it -You believe dual air bags refer to your wife and mother-in-law -The people on Jerry Springer's show remind you of your neighbors -Your dad walks you to school because you are both in the same grade -Your toilet paper has page numbers on it -You go to your family reunion looking for a date -That billboard that says,"Say NO to Crack" reminds you to pull up your jeans (Jeff Foxworthy) =.=.=.=.= Begomoon =.=.=.== jajajaja!!! Great one! >"Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com> wrote in news:6tOdnXaQnZ7OFKvYnZ2dnUVZ_u- >>> "RafaMinu" <rafaminu@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Begomoon >=.=.=.== Frank <th@mgm.com> wrote in > jajajaja!!! Great one! >>Yoy might be a redneck if... If your neck really is red, you might be a redneck 8-) Well, duh! ¡¡Jajjaa, jajaja, ja!!! :-D =.=.=.== Rojaluna =.=.=.=. I think French-educated people are blissfully unaware of the "Verguenza Ajena" concept. A thing that has always fascinated me about the French-educated people is their sense of ridiculousness, or rather the lack of it, on occasions when any other person from any other country on Planet Earth, thinks you should posess some. I once read in a book by an American writer whose name I seem unable to Google down, something like this: "Who else but a Frenchman on vacation would put on a tanga-style swimming brief two sizes too small, and stroll around a crowded beach unashamed of his protruding belly?" There are hundreds of nationalities in this planet, but really, who else but? And even though you are not accountable in any way for other people's unconcealed haughtiness, or any other cultural manifestations, you still feel the sting of embarrassment, and would rather not be a witness of the shameless display... That's "Verguenza Ajena". > "Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com> wrote in news:6tOdnXaQnZ7OFKvYnZ2dnUVZ_u- > >> "RafaMinu" <rafaminu@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Begomoon > =.=.=.== Ok, years later, Finally got the name of the American writer. Very, very funny, You might like his writings... Some of his quotes: Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it. Drugs have taught an entire generation of Americans the metric system. Humans are the only animals that have children on purpose with the exception of guppies, who like to eat theirs. Never fight an inanimate object. The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. The weirder you are going to behave, the more normal you should look. It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person. Very little is known of the Canadian country since it is rarely visited by anyone but the Queen and illiterate sport fishermen. When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. There's a whiff of the lynch mob or the lemming migration about any overlarge concentration of like-thinking individuals, no matter how virtuous their cause. The purpose of a funeral service is to comfort the living. It is important at a funeral to display excessive grief. This will show others how kind-hearted and loving you are and their improved opinion of you will be very comforting. P. J. O'Rourke, Modern Manners, 1983 > I think French-educated people are blissfully unaware of the "Verguenza > Ajena" concept. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Begomoon > > =.=.=.== > "Who else but a Frenchman on vacation would put >on a tanga-style swimming brief two sizes too small, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >There are hundreds of nationalities in this planet, but >really, who else but? Germans. Germans would put on a tanga-style swimming brief ONE size too small. They have some sense of dignity... > > "Who else but a Frenchman on vacation would put > >on a tanga-style swimming brief two sizes too small, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Germans. >> > "Who else but a Frenchman on vacation would put >> >on a tanga-style swimming brief two sizes too small, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Germans. > Germans would put on a tanga-style swimming brief ONE size too small. > They have some sense of dignity... The Germans wouldn't put on anything at all, if they could get away with it. >Alguien sabe traducir al Ingles la expresión "Verguenza Ajena"? >A lo mejor, simplemente no existe traducción porque en paises >anglófonos no saben lo que es el concepto de Verguenza Ajena ... >Fijaros por ejemplo en Jorton ... En Extremadura, cuando yo era niño, se usaba la palabra "lacha" para designar esa sensación molesta que se siente cuando se ve a otra persona haciendo un ridículo espantoso. Yo creía que se trataba de un extremeñismo pero luego he sabido que es palabra tomada del caló gitano. Lacha en caló quiere decir vergüenza. ¿Algún contertulio ha oido esa palabra gitana en su tierra? Ignoro si todavía se usa en Chim del Manró (Tierra del Pan), que es como se llama Extremadura en caló. Saludos El Marasastós |
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