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Dick Chambers - 01 Nov 2006 14:42 GMT What are, or is, poppers?
I have reached the age where I can empathise with the High Court judge who asked a witness "Please explain to the court what a mobile is". I'm not quite that bad yet, but I'm well on the way.
Richard Chambers Leeds UK.
the Omrud - 01 Nov 2006 14:49 GMT Dick Chambers <richard.chambers7@ntlworld.com> had it:
> What are, or is, poppers? > > I have reached the age where I can empathise with the High Court judge who > asked a witness "Please explain to the court what a mobile is". I'm not > quite that bad yet, but I'm well on the way. Amyl nitrate, used (so I'm told) to enhance orgasm. Supplied in small glass vials which are popped open at the appropriate moment.
IIRC, they were always more popular with gay men than heterosexuals.
Alternatively, they could just be press-studs.
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Dick Chambers - 01 Nov 2006 15:43 GMT the Omrud informed me
> Dick Chambers asked >> What are, or is, poppers? > > Amyl nitrate, used (so I'm told) to enhance orgasm. Supplied in > small glass vials which are popped open at the appropriate moment. I presume from your description that this is for inhalation, not swallowing. Is that correct? What would the "appropriate moment" be? i.e., how long before orgasm? Does it work both on male and female? Or, more to the point, does it really work at all? What are the side-effects?
Richard Chambers Leeds UK.
the Omrud - 01 Nov 2006 16:03 GMT Dick Chambers <richard.chambers7@ntlworld.com> had it:
> the Omrud informed me > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > before orgasm? Does it work both on male and female? Or, more to the point, > does it really work at all? What are the side-effects? Inhaling, yes, I should have included that.
As to your other questions, I fear that I have reached the end of my knowledge, which is purely academic. I've never even held a cigarette, so innocent has been my life in this respect. I once walked near some people at an open-air concert who were scraping cannabis resin into fags, but that's as close as I've ever come to illegal drugs.
Wife was on a teachers' drug awareness course on Monday. The instructor asked the class (of Salford teachers) to think back to a time in their lives ("we've all done it") when they had folded to peer pressure and taken something they knew they shouldn't. She had to make up a story about drinking under age.
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Hatunen - 01 Nov 2006 18:12 GMT > . . . I once >walked near some people at an open-air concert who were scraping >cannabis resin into fags, . . . You have no idea of the mental picture that creates for an American.
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the Omrud - 01 Nov 2006 18:31 GMT Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> had it:
> > . . . I once > >walked near some people at an open-air concert who were scraping > >cannabis resin into fags, . . . > > You have no idea of the mental picture that creates for an > American. I have a very good idea, which is why I chose that form of words.
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Charles Riggs - 02 Nov 2006 17:03 GMT >> . . . I once >>walked near some people at an open-air concert who were scraping >>cannabis resin into fags, . . . > >You have no idea of the mental picture that creates for an >American. Wouldn't most Americans know the BrE meaning by now? Most of them watch British TV programmes now and then, don't they?
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Hatunen - 02 Nov 2006 17:27 GMT >>> . . . I once >>>walked near some people at an open-air concert who were scraping [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Wouldn't most Americans know the BrE meaning by now? Most of them >watch British TV programmes now and then, don't they? Most of them?
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R H Draney - 02 Nov 2006 19:05 GMT Hatunen filted:
>>Wouldn't most Americans know the BrE meaning by now? Most of them >>watch British TV programmes now and then, don't they? > >Most of them? > >Not even close. In the sense that "The Office", "House" and "Big Brother" are British TV programmes even if they were made here, I'm inclined to agree with Charles on this one....r
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Hatunen - 02 Nov 2006 20:31 GMT >Hatunen filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >programmes even if they were made here, I'm inclined to agree with Charles on >this one....r None of those shows uses Briticisms like "fag" for cigrette, so their ultimate inspiration is irrelevant. They are not British shows anyway, they are American copies of British shows. Hell, Hugh Laurie even says his lines with an American accent.
I got to watch the Brit "Big Brother" when I spent a summer in Helsinki; it only vaguely resembles the American vsion. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Peter Duncanson - 02 Nov 2006 21:17 GMT >>Hatunen filted: >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >shows anyway, they are American copies of British shows. Hell, >Hugh Laurie even says his lines with an American accent. Big Brother is Dutch by origin.
There is more than you wish to know at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_television_program
>I got to watch the Brit "Big Brother" when I spent a summer in >Helsinki; it only vaguely resembles the American vsion. Yes. From Wikipedia:
Big Brother USA currently uses a different set of rules from the other countries' versions of the show, as it has starting with its second season (the first season followed the traditional format) In the US version, viewers do not vote for eviction; all voting is done by houseguests.
I understand there are other differences.
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CDB - 03 Nov 2006 01:43 GMT >> Hatunen filted: >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > shows anyway, they are American copies of British shows. Hell, > Hugh Laurie even says his lines with an American accent. One interesting thing about Laurie's performance is that, in the early episodes, you could turn off the sound and watch him talking like an Englishman. This season (I don't watch _House_ much, so I can't say when the transition came), he mugs American facial expressions.
T.H. Entity - 03 Nov 2006 11:04 GMT >I don't watch _House_ much Neither do I any more, since it became clear that if you've seen one *House* episode you've seen them all. Every script follows a strict ten-step plan:
1. Person going about daily business has exotic seizure 2. House's first diagnosis and treatment 3. Oops, wrong medication! Patient now at death's door. 4. Foreman shops House to Cuddy 5. House nearly gets fired but Cuddy just can't resist that sweet-talkin', pill-poppin' gammy-legged unshaven guy's charms 6. House has lightbulb moment and twigs patient's Big Lie 7. House plays piano or with video game 8. House's second diagnosis and treatment 9. Patient miraculously gets better 10. House gets on motorbike, swallows another fistful of Vicodin and rides off home to masturbate.
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Philip Eden - 03 Nov 2006 11:41 GMT "T.H. Entity" <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote :
>>I don't watch _House_ much > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > 10. House gets on motorbike, swallows another fistful of Vicodin and > rides off home to masturbate. Using poppers?
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CDB - 03 Nov 2006 16:20 GMT > "T.H. Entity" <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote : >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> one *House* episode you've seen them all. Every script follows a >> strict ten-step plan: [1-9 is the Hospital Story part; 10 is vicodin, I mean the coda]
>> 10. House gets on motorbike, swallows another fistful of Vicodin >> and rides off home to masturbate. >> > Using poppers? Why not? He can get real ones.
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 01 Nov 2006 23:47 GMT ...
> Wife was on a teachers' drug awareness course on Monday. The > instructor asked the class (of Salford teachers) to think back to a > time in their lives ("we've all done it") when they had folded to > peer pressure and taken something they knew they shouldn't. She had > to make up a story about drinking under age. Now that's irony. Will someone ask at her next course whether she's ever told a lie because of peer pressure?
The person who suspects someone of Britishhood should look for "was on a course" versus "was at a course" or "went to a course".
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Don Aitken - 01 Nov 2006 17:18 GMT >the Omrud informed me > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >before orgasm? Does it work both on male and female? Or, more to the point, >does it really work at all? What are the side-effects? The effect they had on me was to make me break into uncontrollable laughter. That, and make my ears feel red-hot. I don't think I'd even have *noticed* an orgasm.
It's amyl nitrite, not nitrate, by the way; a distinction which can be made the excuse for some truly awful puns by those who are that way inclined.
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Charles Riggs - 02 Nov 2006 17:06 GMT >>the Omrud informed me >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >made the excuse for some truly awful puns by those who are that way >inclined. I'll bite. What are some of them?
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Lars Eighner - 01 Nov 2006 18:12 GMT > the Omrud informed me
>> Dick Chambers asked >>> What are, or is, poppers? >> >> Amyl nitrate, used (so I'm told) to enhance orgasm. Supplied in >> small glass vials which are popped open at the appropriate moment.
> I presume from your description that this is for inhalation, not swallowing. > Is that correct? What would the "appropriate moment" be? i.e., how long > before orgasm? Does it work both on male and female? Or, more to the point, > does it really work at all? What are the side-effects? "Poppers" are so called because the original dosage form of this group of drugs was small, cotton mesh covered, crushable vials (similar vials are sometimes used for smelling salts). This was the "ethical" drug amyl nitrite (but often called "amyl nitrate"), used for attacks of angina pectoris. Amyl nitrite is a powerful vasodilator and produces an intense flushing sensation. As this drug became more popular with recreational users, controls on amyl nitrite were tightened and other nitrite compounds such as butyl nitrite were sold over the counter in very small bottles as "room odorizers," --- a particularly transparent cover story as the stuff smelled something like soiled sweat socks, and although in the small bottle, the substance was not "popped" (in the way the previous forms were crushed), the name "poppers" stuck.
"Poppers" seemed to be especially popular in discos and were used on the dance floor, and so forth. The intense flushing sensation is somewhat similar to the flush produced by intense orgasm, so some people seemed to find these drugs aphrodisiacal. The bottled form was particularly inconvenient to use during sex (and, in my personal opinion, rather redundant), but some people did so use them. Males reported having the sensation of being multi-orgasmic while females sometimes reported the drug induced orgasms. (In particular, the pharmaceutical effects of these drugs would tend to work against producing or maintaining an erection, because the general vasodilation would divert blood and lower blood pressure, but in young men this would not be particularly problematic and the erotic associations of the drugs and the settings in which they were used generally resulted in the psychological trumping the pharmacological --- a theme which is often repeated in the literature of recreation drug use.)
All poppers ever did for me was give me a headache, and this was a fairly common report among people who did not care for them. Naturally, the drugs could be dangerous for anyone with a vascular disorder, and the butyl and related imitations of amyl were not produced with pharmaceutical quality control and not tested (when "room odorizers" were not per se illegal by local ordinance, they were sometimes seized for mislabeling, as apparently manufacturers and distributors often were not entirely sure what was in the product and formulations changed oftener than labels as particular compounds were banned and related compounds were substituted). The flushing (for which the drugs were used) could lead to a precipitous drop in blood pressure, producing faintness which could pose a hazard. All of the compounds were highly volatile, leading to a number of misadventures of inflammability (and to economic disadvantages as it was nearly impossible to reseal once-opened bottles tightly enough to prevent the escape of the active ingredient). Finally, there were some reports of people using the drug while their heads were covered with plastic bags, apparently with the intention of conserving or concentrating the vapor, who suffered the predicable effect of lack of oxygen, but whether any of these stories was true, I do not know.
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Jeffrey Turner - 01 Nov 2006 23:42 GMT > the Omrud informed me > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > before orgasm? Does it work both on male and female? Or, more to the point, > does it really work at all? What are the side-effects? You are correct about inhalation. I believe side effects include loss of brain cells. I can't answer your other two questions.
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R H Draney - 02 Nov 2006 01:30 GMT Jeffrey Turner filted:
>> the Omrud informed me >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >You are correct about inhalation. I believe side effects include loss >of brain cells. I can't answer your other two questions. QED
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Charles Riggs - 02 Nov 2006 17:07 GMT >> the Omrud informed me >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >You are correct about inhalation. I believe side effects include loss >of brain cells. I can't answer your other two questions. Good one.
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Hatunen - 01 Nov 2006 18:10 GMT >Dick Chambers <richard.chambers7@ntlworld.com> had it: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Alternatively, they could just be press-studs. Here in the American Soutwest the term "popper" also applies to a fried battered jalapeno pepper filled with a bit of cream cheese sauce. Great party hors d'ouevres.
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Don Phillipson - 01 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT > What are, or is, poppers? 1. Capsules of amyl nitrate, for inhalation: an illegal drug, usually.
2. Small floating lures for fishing, that (because of their shape) make a distinctive sound in the water when tweaked.
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Will - 01 Nov 2006 15:20 GMT > > What are, or is, poppers? > > 1. Capsules of amyl nitrate, for inhalation: > an illegal drug, usually. I don't think they're proscribed in the UK, or at least they weren't when I was ... ahem ... active on the drug scene. I remember one party when someone dropped and broke a large glass vial of the stuff in a crowded basement. Boy, you should have seen us dance.
Will.
John Dean - 01 Nov 2006 18:11 GMT >> What are, or is, poppers? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of their shape) make a distinctive sound in the > water when tweaked. Not to mention those little things that make a popping noise and allegedly liven up a party, a cricket delivery and those things on a babygro.
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HVS - 01 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT On 01 Nov 2006, Dick Chambers wrote
> What are, or is, poppers? Context?
At a party, I'd expect them to be those little plastic thingies that you hold onto and pull a string to make them go "bang" fire out a few streamers.
But on clothes, I'd expect them to be snaps or "dome fasteners".
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Evan Kirshenbaum - 01 Nov 2006 17:25 GMT > On 01 Nov 2006, Dick Chambers wrote > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you hold onto and pull a string to make them go "bang" fire out a > few streamers. Unless they were being served, in which case they'd apparently be jalapeño halves filled with cheese and then baked or battered and fried.
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Prai Jei - 01 Nov 2006 20:57 GMT HVS (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message <Xns986E8D3806B6Awhhvans@62.253.170.163>:
> At a party, I'd expect them to be those little plastic thingies that > you hold onto and pull a string to make them go "bang" fire out a few > streamers. Many years ago at an office party, one of my colleagues who had never operated one of these things before, held it upside down. He pulled the string up, and the emerging streamers shot downwards and hit him in a tender spot. He became known as a party pooper after that.
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Mike M - 03 Nov 2006 13:10 GMT > But on clothes, I'd expect them to be snaps or "dome fasteners". Wow. THREE alternat(iv)e names for press studs.
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Roland Hutchinson - 03 Nov 2006 14:51 GMT >> But on clothes, I'd expect them to be snaps or "dome fasteners". > > Wow. THREE alternat(iv)e names for press studs. You mean gripper-snappers?
Amongst our many names...
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Oleg Lego - 02 Nov 2006 06:00 GMT The Dick Chambers entity posted thusly:
>What are, or is, poppers? In addition to the other answers you've received, they are also any of a number of small snacks consisting of a dough shell or a breaded coating containing a filling. Our local grocery outlet sells "pizza poppers" as well as "paneer poppers" (paneer is a cheese which is about as tasty as boconcini or 20 lb. bond paper).
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