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Discussion Groups / English Usage / November 2006sunset, v.i.
From a Wall Street Journal editorial: "So far the White House has been steadfast in insisting that TRIA [Terrorism Risk Insurance Act] eventually be allowed to sunset." Ugh. Does "sunset" mean something different from "expire", or is the writer just trying to show off what a savvy Washington insider he is?  SignatureRay (remove the Xs to reply) > From a Wall Street Journal editorial: > "So far the White House has been steadfast in insisting that TRIA [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the writer just trying to show off what a savvy Washington insider > he is? These are not mutually exclusive, of course. It probably means "expire at a preset time in accordance with applicable legislation". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_clause >> From a Wall Street Journal editorial: >> "So far the White House has been steadfast in insisting that TRIA [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_clause That's what I assumed it referred to. I suppose a case could be made that "sunset" means "expire due to a built-in sunset clause", but I'm not sure "expire" wouldn't mean the same thing. Do any laws expire without a sunset clause? How about a sanity clause? I notice the wikipedia article uses "sunset" as a transitive verb. SignatureRay (remove the Xs to reply) >>> From a Wall Street Journal editorial: >>> "So far the White House has been steadfast in insisting that TRIA [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > made that "sunset" means "expire due to a built-in sunset clause", > but I'm not sure "expire" wouldn't mean the same thing. Maybe just more explicit, while coming down to the same thing. > Do any > laws expire without a sunset clause? How about a sanity clause? I pass, Virginia. > I notice the wikipedia article uses "sunset" as a transitive verb. That seems more natural to me than the usage you cited. > From a Wall Street Journal editorial: > "So far the White House has been steadfast in insisting that TRIA > [Terrorism Risk Insurance Act] eventually be allowed to sunset." > > Ugh. Does "sunset" mean something different from "expire", or is the > writer just trying to show off what a savvy Washington insider he is? In recent years, many laws have been enacted with built-in expiration dates, so that explicit action is required to continue their effect past that date; that was in response to common criticisms that many laws with unanticipated ill effects or whose purpose unexpectedly receded were nonetheless remaining on the books for years. Laws of that sort are generically known as "sunset laws", so when such a law is *not* re-enacted, it is over-trendy but not absolutely nutso to say it was allowed to "sunset". Eric Walker: > Laws of that sort are generically known as "sunset laws", More commonly, they are laws that "have sunset clauses", as noted elsewhere in the thread. > so when such a law is *not* re-enacted, it is over-trendy but > not absolutely nutso to say it was allowed to "sunset". Just think, we might instead have paid attention to the underlying verb in "sunset", and said that they were allowed to "set". Wouldn't that be just what the language needs -- a 216th :-) meaning for "set"? SignatureMark Brader, Toronto | "You keep using that word. I do not think it means msb@vex.net | what you think it means." -- The Princess Bride [...] > Just think, we might instead have paid attention to the underlying > verb in "sunset", and said that they were allowed to "set". Wouldn't > that be just what the language needs -- a 216th :-) meaning for "set"? My own preference would have been for "sink"--it seems more appropriate in the context. > [...] > > Just think, we might instead have paid attention to the underlying [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > My own preference would have been for "sink"--it seems more appropriate > in the context. 'Set' would most likely get confused with 'set in concrete'. 'Sink' could probably get taken as 'sink in'. 'To sunset' here sounds like someone in the emotionless law-world tried to be poetic (<gag>), and it made me think forward to the next phase: sunrise. Nah... 'expire' should be used where 'expire' is meant. Or some better words I can't think of right now. SignatureSolo Thesailor http://sailingstoriesandtips.blogspot.com |
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