fruitcake (because food is on-topic)
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Sara Lorimer - 11 Nov 2006 19:45 GMT I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, heavy, have good fruit in it, keep well, and be deliciously boozy.
It should not be a light spice cake. It should not contain day-glo green and red chunks of sugar.
I've never made fruitcake before. Do any of you have recipes you wouldn't mind sharing?
(Let's not tell all the jokes about fruitcakes and just say we did, okay?)
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Dick Chambers - 11 Nov 2006 20:19 GMT Sara Lorimer asked
> I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature > fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (Let's not tell all the jokes about fruitcakes and just say we did, > okay?) I am not sure whether it is a fruit cake or not, but I suggest you look up the recipe (for example, in "Good Housekeeping") of the British speciality called Christmas Pudding. This is so good that it has taken even France by storm. (The French, with a Gallic injustice, have traditionally turned up their noses at British cuisine. Not with this delicacy, however.) Nearly every recipe book in France now has a page devoted to "le Christmas Pudding". Some progress, at least.
The Christmas Pudding is normally re-heated on Christmas day, brought hot to table, and a sprig of holly is placed in the top. We close the cutains, pour some brandy over the hot pudding, and set fire to it, to watch the blue flames dance on top of the pudding, scorching the leaves of the holly. Flambé, the French call it. But our flames are blue, theirs are yellow and orange. The pudding is then served, with either brandy custard or brandy butter.
There is no fruit cake richer in fruit than the Christmas Pudding, and no fruit cake more boozy. No other recipe comes near. The best is British.
Richard Chambers Leeds UK.
Wood Avens - 11 Nov 2006 22:07 GMT >Sara Lorimer asked > >> I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature >> fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, >> heavy, have good fruit in it, keep well, and be deliciously boozy.
>I am not sure whether it is a fruit cake or not, but I suggest you look up >the recipe (for example, in "Good Housekeeping") of the British speciality [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >There is no fruit cake richer in fruit than the Christmas Pudding, and no >fruit cake more boozy. No other recipe comes near. The best is British. Christmas pudding is indeed spiffing, but it's not cake, and, crucially, it's no good cold. If you're thinking of something that you expect people to eat cold, then Christmas pudding, delectable as it is, is not what you want. Christmas cake is the thing. (Regrettably I don't make my own these days, so I hope some other Brit has a tried and tested recipe.)
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Paul Wolff - 11 Nov 2006 22:49 GMT >>There is no fruit cake richer in fruit than the Christmas Pudding, and no >>fruit cake more boozy. No other recipe comes near. The best is British. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >(Regrettably I don't make my own these days, so I hope some other Brit >has a tried and tested recipe.) Not cake by nomenclature, though in passing I wonder what defines cake.
But not to be eaten cold? Katy, you are usually very sound; what ails thee? Cold Christmas pudding is what every explorer of uncharted lands should take, wrapped in a kerchief, in his knapsack. It stiffens the sinews, summons up the blood, lends the eye a terrible aspect, sets the teeth and stretches the nostril wide, cries 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!"; and, in short, shows them there the mettle of our pasture.
Actually, I rather like it. It demands brandy butter or cream, though, for balance and lubrication.
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Wood Avens - 12 Nov 2006 10:29 GMT >>Christmas pudding is indeed spiffing, but it's not cake, and, >>crucially, it's no good cold. If you're thinking of something that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Actually, I rather like it. It demands brandy butter or cream, though, >for balance and lubrication. Perhaps I was a trifle over-emphatic. All right, it can be eaten cold. But I defy anyone to tell me it's not better hot. Unless you don't like succulence.
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the Omrud - 12 Nov 2006 11:00 GMT Wood Avens <woodavens@askjennison.com> had it:
> Perhaps I was a trifle over-emphatic. All right, it can be eaten > cold. But I defy anyone to tell me it's not better hot. Unless you > don't like succulence. I'd just like to announce that our household's Annual Christmas Pudding Tasting Season started last night. Morrisons Organic Christmas Pudding. Unfortunately, there was enough in the tub for four; since our sproglets are both away at their various far-flung universities, we shall have to taste it again this evening.
Dad makes his own puddings but we have to save them for Christmas as it's a but mean to scoff them throughout November. He steams them in old margarine tubs, which gives them interesting contours where the tubs have ridges.
NOTICE to all Mothers-In-Law: November is well underway. Start cooking your sprouts now!
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Amethyst Deceiver - 12 Nov 2006 14:12 GMT >NOTICE to all Mothers-In-Law: November is well underway. Start >cooking your sprouts now! That means I have to go and harvest mine. Not that I'm a MIL, but still.
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Sara Lorimer - 11 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT > The Christmas Pudding is normally re-heated on Christmas day, brought hot to > table, and a sprig of holly is placed in the top. We close the cutains, pour [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > orange. The pudding is then served, with either brandy custard or brandy > butter. We (by which I mean my family, not all Americans) do that, too -- but this is something different.
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R J Valentine - 11 Nov 2006 20:44 GMT } I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature } fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, } heavy, have good fruit in it, keep well, and be deliciously boozy. } } It should not be a light spice cake. It should not contain day-glo green } and red chunks of sugar. } } I've never made fruitcake before. Do any of you have recipes you } wouldn't mind sharing? } } (Let's not tell all the jokes about fruitcakes and just say we did, } okay?)
Are you serious? If so, the definitive one is "Christmas Fruitcake Bars" on page 97 of _Maida Heatter's BOOK OF GREAT COOKIES_ (Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1978). E-mail me for more details.
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Eric Walker - 11 Nov 2006 22:38 GMT > I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature > fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've never made fruitcake before. Do any of you have recipes you > wouldn't mind sharing? The readily available _Fanny Farmer Cookbook_ has a recipe titled "Dark Fruit Cake" (page 576 in our copy) that I can tell you from extensive personal experience fits your bill quite well. Be sure to follow the appended "Brandied Fruit Cake" instructions.
OK, here, I'm in a helpful mood, I'll type it out (this makes two cakes, which is fine because they keep almost forever):
Ingredients: --------------- 1/4 pound butter [or 1/2 pound shortening] 1 cup (firmly packed) dark-brown sugar 1 teaspoon lemon extract 2 eggs 1/2 cup molasses 2 cups flour 1/2 teaspoon baking soda 1 teaspoon cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon allspice 1/2 teaspoon mace 1/4 teaspoon cloves 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/2 cup milk 2 cups small pieces mixed candied fruit 1/2 cup small pieces candied citron 1 cup raisins 1 cup chopped pecans
Procedure: --------------
Preheat your oven to 325 degrees Fahrenheit.
Butter two 9" x 5" loaf pans, line each with foil, then also butter the foil.
Cream the butter (or, if you are using shortening, the shortening--we feel butter works a tad better), add the brown sugar, then beat till light.
Add the lemon extract and eggs and beat well.
Stir in the molasses and blend.
Mix together the flour baking soda, cinnamon, allspice, mace, cloves, and salt, then beat that mix into the first mixture.
Add the milk and beat till smooth.
Stir in the candied fruit, citron, raisins, and pecans, then mix well.
Spoon into the pans and bake for 1 to 1-1/4 hours, or until an inserted toothpick comes out clean.
Turn out onto racks to cool.
When cool, wrap well and store in an airtight container (bit see below).
Brandied: ------------ Soak two large pieces of cheesecloth in brandy. Wrap each fruit cake in the cheesecloth, covering all sides, then wrap well in foil. Be sure to re-moisten the cheesecloth with additional brandy every few days for about a week, rewrapping the foil. (The brandy will not only flavor the cakes, but help preserve them.)
In our experience, you can profitably continue re-moistening the cheesecake every so often for quite some time after the first week--basically till you see that the cheesecloth no longer appears changed since the last application. Note again that you need to be storing the cakes in *airtight* containers: something with a frimly shutting lid.
Sara Lorimer - 11 Nov 2006 23:24 GMT > The readily available _Fanny Farmer Cookbook_ has a recipe titled "Dark > Fruit Cake" (page 576 in our copy) that I can tell you from extensive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > OK, here, I'm in a helpful mood, I'll type it out (this makes two > cakes, which is fine because they keep almost forever): (wiping drool off keyboard) Oh, that looks ideal. Thanks.
A follow-up question: what brandy should I use? I don't want to use really cheap stuff, because I want the fruitcake to taste delicious. But I don't want to waste money that could be spent on more ingredients for more fruitcakes. I know little about brandy. Please advise.
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Robin Bignall - 11 Nov 2006 23:00 GMT >I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature >fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >(Let's not tell all the jokes about fruitcakes and just say we did, >okay?) Here's one from St Delia. http://www.deliaonline.com/cookery-school/scaling-up-cake-recipes,1002,AR.html
Leave out the glace cherries if you don't want day-glo. My instinct suggests making a large cake and giving away slices, rather than a series of small ones, which may turn out drier.
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Sara Lorimer - 11 Nov 2006 23:24 GMT > My instinct > suggests making a large cake and giving away slices, rather than a > series of small ones, which may turn out drier. That's an excellent idea -- much easier to manage, too.
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Eric Walker - 11 Nov 2006 23:36 GMT > > My instinct > > suggests making a large cake and giving away slices, rather than a > > series of small ones, which may turn out drier. While two smaller cakes do have a larger surface area than one big one, I think two are easier, because each is being kept fresh till wanted by virtue of both the moistened cheesecloth wrapping and of the foil wrapping within an airtight container. Then, when the cakes are wanted, one can be slicing up the first--exposing its innards to air--while still keeping the second entirely fresh.
Indeed, one can make the two cakes at once, then open one for, say, Thanksgiving and the second for Christmas (or one for Christmas, the other for New Year's).
> A follow-up question: what brandy should I use? I don't want to use >really cheap stuff, because I want the fruitcake to taste delicious. But >I don't want to waste money that could be spent on more ingredients for >more fruitcakes. I know little about brandy. Most or all of the subtlety one pays for in expensive brandy is swamped by the strong flavors of the cake itself. A modest little brandy should be satisfactory--something like (in the U.S., anyway) Christian Brothers or even E. & J. Gallo. Note that you can also use rum to much the same effect, and any quality level above the cheapest supermarket store-branded sort will do.
(Or you could experiment: do one cake in brandy and the other in rum. Both will be at least satisfactory, and you can see if you have a preference.)
Peter Duncanson - 11 Nov 2006 23:24 GMT >I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature >fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, >heavy, have good fruit in it, keep well, and be deliciously boozy. Others have given recipes and made various suggestions. You asked about miniature fruitcakes. Are you thinking of individually cooked cakes rather than one or two large ones cut into pieces?
I wonder whether anyone could make suggestions for the cooking of miniature cakes?
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Sara Lorimer - 11 Nov 2006 23:44 GMT > Others have given recipes and made various suggestions. You asked > about miniature fruitcakes. Are you thinking of individually cooked > cakes rather than one or two large ones cut into pieces? I was thinking of individually cooked ones originally, but now I'm thinking of making two large ones and cutting them. Less fiddliness, and no need to buy new, small pans.
> I wonder whether anyone could make suggestions for the cooking of > miniature cakes? They would be appreciated, in case I change my mind.
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Skitt - 11 Nov 2006 23:59 GMT >> Others have given recipes and made various suggestions. You asked >> about miniature fruitcakes. Are you thinking of individually cooked [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > They would be appreciated, in case I change my mind. Did anyone mention that you have to buy quite a bit of brandy? It has to last for the duration of the baking process, you know.
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LFS - 12 Nov 2006 08:55 GMT >>I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature >>fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lakeland (hi Rudolf!) used to sell a large square cake tin with dividers that let you produce varying sizes of cake down to quite small ones. I can't see it on their site now, though.
<searches further>
These would do the trick:
http://www.surbitonart.co.uk/acatalog/Sugarcraft_Catalogue_Muffin_Tin_and_other_ Special_cake_tins_134.html http://tinyurl.com/ygu9ox
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the Omrud - 12 Nov 2006 10:09 GMT Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> had it:
> I'm looking for a good fruitcake recipe. I want to make miniature > fruitcakes to give away at Christmas. The fruitcake should be dark, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've never made fruitcake before. Do any of you have recipes you > wouldn't mind sharing? Mrs Beeton's Christmas Cake (1). I've been using this recipe for 30 years and have never had cause to look for another. I've typed it in as I couldn't quickly find an online copy, so it is worth checking for sense.
This sort of cake is best aged for a few weeks. Also, you might want to try a dummy run as it's something of a skill to get it right. Take the note about the depression in the centre seriously - the cake will rise considerably and if you don't make a big dip in the middle it will rise up and the top of it will burn. If you intend to ice it, you should cut off the domed top (and eat, naturally) and then turn the cake upside down - this gives an excellent flat surface to take the marzipan and icing. Marzipan should be rolled out and stuck to the cake with apricot jam, or it will slide around.
And as Robin says, you should make one big cake - this recipe is not suited to small cakes.
8 oz butter 8 oz castor sugar 1/2 teaspoon gravy browning (I leave this out) 8 oz plain flour 1/8 teaspoon salt (I leave this out) 1 teaspoon mixed spice 1/2 teaspoon baking powder 5 - 6 eggs (I use 5 large eggs) 1 lb currants 8 oz raisins 4 oz glace cherries 2 oz chopped peel 4 oz blanched chopped almonds 4 - 5 tablespoons brandy (I usually replace with Grand Marnier which adds an orangy note).
Line an 8-in cake tin with greaseproof paper. Cream fat and sugar together until white; add gravy browning. Sift together flour, salt mixed spice and baking powder. Add egg and flour alternately to the creamed fat, beating well between each addition. Stir in the prepared fruit, almonds and if necessary ad a little milk to make a heavy dropping consistency. Place the mixture in the cake tin and tie a piece of paper round the outside of the tin. Smooth the mixture and make a depression in the centre. Bake in a warm oven (335 F, Gas 3) for half an hour, then reduce the heat to 290 F, Gas 1, for a further 3 - 3.5 hours. Allow to firm before removing from tin and when cold remove paper. Prick bottom of cake well and sprinkle brandy over. Leave for a few days before icing.
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