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Usage of 'subsequent'

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Fiance - 12 Nov 2006 12:37 GMT
An excerpt from a contract:

"Any waiver in respect of failure of compliance with the provisions of
this agreement shall be maid in writing and such waiver shall not
operate against the waiving party as a waiver of any right or remedy in
respect of any subsequent".

Are there any words omitted after "subsequent"? If not, what does
"subsequent" refer to?
dontbother - 12 Nov 2006 12:42 GMT
> An excerpt from a contract:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Are there any words omitted after "subsequent"? If not, what
> does "subsequent" refer to?

Yes, it's an elliptical sentence. The missing words seem to me to be
"failure of compliance with the provisions of this agreement". In
other words, "even if I say it's okay that you breached the contract
this time, that doesn't mean that I'll say it's okay the next time
you breach the contract".

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Fiance - 12 Nov 2006 16:11 GMT
dontbother ra?e:
> Yes, it's an elliptical sentence. The missing words seem to me to be
> "failure of compliance with the provisions of this agreement". In
> other words, "even if I say it's okay that you breached the contract
> this time, that doesn't mean that I'll say it's okay the next time
> you breach the contract".

Thanks! I'm used to ellipsis but this one seemed ungrammatical. I'd
expect something like "remedy in respect of any subsequent ONE", cf.
the ubiquitous ellipsis in legal documents - "anything of THE
foregoing" or "THE latter". I.e. an adjective is made a noun by use of
the article or "one" is used.

In the quoted example, "subsequent" has no preceding article and is
difficult for an EFL to recognize as a noun.

P.S. Sorry for the "maid" typo. This is one of the "phonetical typos"
that I see in the writing of the people that are more comfortable with
spoken language than written one. I tend to be very careful to avoid
this sort of mild "illiteracy".
dontbother - 12 Nov 2006 16:37 GMT
> dontbother raše:

>> Yes, it's an elliptical sentence. The missing words seem to me
>> to be "failure of compliance with the provisions of this
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> In the quoted example, "subsequent" has no preceding article and
> is difficult for an EFL to recognize as a noun.

Right. I wouldn't analyze "subsequent" as a noun here but as an
adjective in an elliptical sentence. Others might take issue with
my analysis. MW11 says quite bluntly that it is a noun as well,
which would allow "in respect of any subsequent" despite its
stylistic vulgarity and odiousness. But it's legalese in addition
to being in a contract, so style is hardly an issue.

> P.S. Sorry for the "maid" typo.

There's no need to apologize. I was just pointing it out on the off
chance that the contract actually contained that typo. I did not
intend to criticize or embarrass you, and I apologize if I did.

> This is one of the "phonetical
> typos" that I see in the writing of the people that are more
> comfortable with spoken language than written one. I tend to be
> very careful to avoid this sort of mild "illiteracy".

It happens to all of us native speakers too. No big deal,
especially on the Net.

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Steve Hayes - 12 Nov 2006 18:04 GMT
>An excerpt from a contract:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Are there any words omitted after "subsequent"? If not, what does
>"subsequent" refer to?

LIt looks as thoguh the words after subequent were lost.

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Frank ess - 12 Nov 2006 19:30 GMT
>> An excerpt from a contract:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> Are there any words omitted after "subsequent"? If not, what does
>> "subsequent" refer to?

" ... waiver"

> LIt looks as thoguh the words after subequent were lost.
Eric Walker - 12 Nov 2006 23:27 GMT
> An excerpt from a contract:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Are there any words omitted after "subsequent"? If not, what does
> "subsequent" refer to?

It is an unwise choice, especially for a legal document.  The noun
sense of "subsequent" is marked by the OED as Obsolete (and does not
appear at all in my American desk dictionary).  Its OED definition is
"a person or thing that follows or comes after another".  From the
usage samples given, even were the word alive today, the example above
would not be how it would be used.

The problem, even did we admiht the word as a lively noun, is that it
is unclear of what sort the "subsequent" would be.  At a quick glance,
one might be tempted to say "waiver", but on careful reading, we see
that that cannot be so.  The "subsequent" would appear to be a "failure
of compliance" (ugh), but the sentence is very unclear on that (and
does not use a defining indefinite article to qualify "failure").

My guess is that what was meant was something like:

"Any particular failure [by X] to comply with the provisions of this
agreement may be waived [by Y], but only in a writing expressly setting
forth the matters being waived, and no such waiver shall be construed
as a waiver of any subsequent failure [by X] to comply, whether that
failure be of the same or of a different nature."

Still not good, but better.
 
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