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Reg Ritter - 13 Nov 2006 11:10 GMT
The English and Australian slang for buttocks is arse.

The American equivalent is a.s.

Australian teenagers say "arse" but spell it "a.s", because they get all
their culture from TV and the Internet.

There is an American movie called "Jackass".

A jackass is a male donkey.  I think the producers of the film know this.

Australian teenagers are pronouncing this film as "Jackarse", because they
do not know that "a.s" means "donkey", and somehow have concluded that
"Jackass" means "Jack with buttocks" or something.

There is a conclusion in this somewhere.  Does anybody know what it is?
Steve Hayes - 13 Nov 2006 16:05 GMT
>The English and Australian slang for buttocks is arse.
>
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>
>There is a conclusion in this somewhere.  Does anybody know what it is?

Jack is a synonym for arse

So a jackarse is a bumbutt, or an anusfundament.

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tinwhistler - 13 Nov 2006 18:03 GMT
> There is a conclusion in this somewhere.  Does anybody know what it is?

All things come to an end down under (???)

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Oleg Lego - 13 Nov 2006 21:46 GMT
The Reg Ritter entity posted thusly:

>The English and Australian slang for buttocks is arse.
>
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>
>There is a conclusion in this somewhere.  Does anybody know what it is?

Yes.

THere is, however, one I don't know.

A male sheep is a ram.
A donkey is an a.s.
So, why is a ram in the a.s called a goose?
Peter Moylan - 14 Nov 2006 06:52 GMT
> A male sheep is a ram.
> A donkey is an a.s.
> So, why is a ram in the a.s called a goose?

That's a tricky one. Time for a gander in the dictionary.

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Pat Durkin - 13 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT
> The English and Australian slang for buttocks is arse.
>
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> A jackass is a male donkey.  I think the producers of the film know
> this.

Jacks and jennies are donkeys, yes.  For some reason, in the US the
person who acts very stupidly is said to be or to act like an a.s.  But
donkeys are quite intelligent, though sometimes independent little
animals.  I think the US usage to call someone stupid (or an a.s) is
simply a euphemism for the cruder reference to the human buttocks, or
even the anus--a.shole.

> Australian teenagers are pronouncing this film as "Jackarse", because
> they do not know that "a.s" means "donkey", and somehow have concluded
> that "Jackass" means "Jack with buttocks" or something.

Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy pun
out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
jackass (kookaburra, right?)" is a bird in Australia?  Isn't it named
because its call resembles the donkey's neigh--well, hee-haw?

How do those same teens pronounce that slang name?

> There is a conclusion in this somewhere.  Does anybody know what it
> is?

Conclusion to what?
Robert Bannister - 14 Nov 2006 00:42 GMT
> Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy pun
> out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
> jackass (kookaburra, right?)" is a bird in Australia?  Isn't it named
> because its call resembles the donkey's neigh--well, hee-haw?

I don't believe any Australian of any age would call a kookaburra a
laughing jackass. When they steal the kids' sandwiches right out of
their hands, they certainly get called names, but jackass isn't on the list.

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mb - 14 Nov 2006 01:16 GMT
> > Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy pun
> > out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
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> laughing jackass. When they steal the kids' sandwiches right out of
> their hands,

I'm sure that doesn't include hamburgers

> they certainly get called names, but jackass isn't on the list.
Pat Durkin - 14 Nov 2006 04:33 GMT
>> Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy
>> pun out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> their hands, they certainly get called names, but jackass isn't on the
> list.

Well, one of these defs says it is "dated", and a couple of them
indicate that there is an extinct NZ owl known as a "laughing jackass"
(in addition to the kookaburra, that is).

Rhymezone
noun:   almost extinct owl of New Zealand
noun:   Australian kingfisher having a loud cackling cry

Encarta
laugh·ing jack·a.s (plural laugh·ing jack·a.s·es)
Definition:
 birds  ( dated )  Same as  kookaburra

Ask Oxford.com (COED)
laughing jackass
Austral. the kookaburra.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=laughing+jackass&r=66
This source has 4 refs, repeating the kookaburra and the NZ owl.

But it could be the kids don't call it that.  (Must really be dated, I
mean.)
Reg Ritter - 14 Nov 2006 06:28 GMT
> Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy pun
> out of the name?

No. They think they are pronouncing it correctly.

Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
> jackass (kookaburra, right?)" is a bird in Australia?  Isn't it named
> because its call resembles the donkey's neigh--well, hee-haw?

I have never heard it called anything other than a kookaburra.
Peter Moylan - 14 Nov 2006 07:02 GMT
> Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy
> pun out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
>  jackass (kookaburra, right?)" is a bird in Australia?  Isn't it
> named because its call resembles the donkey's neigh--well, hee-haw?
>
> How do those same teens pronounce that slang name?

They wouldn't know it. It was old-fashioned slang 50 years ago, and has
pretty much disappeared by now.

When the first whites came to Australia they were puzzled and sometimes
terrified by the unfamiliar noises they heard in the bush, so they tried
to relate them to something they knew. Sometimes this took a bit of a
stretch. Those of us who grew up in the country perceive very little in
common between the hee-haw of an a.s and the hoo-hoo-ha-ha of a kookaburra.

It was said in my youth that Italian immigrants called kookaburras
"ha-ha pigeons" because they tasted like pigeon. I've never seen
anything to indicate that Italians eat either bird.

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Roland Hutchinson - 14 Nov 2006 07:29 GMT

> It was said in my youth that Italian immigrants called kookaburras
> "ha-ha pigeons" because they tasted like pigeon. I've never seen
> anything to indicate that Italians eat either bird.

Italian cookery has a recipe for pretty much anything that has feathers.

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Stuart Chapman - 14 Nov 2006 08:55 GMT
> Is it possible that the Australian teens are making a kind of slangy pun
> out of the name?  Or am I mistaken in thinking that the "laughing
> jackass (kookaburra, right?)" is a bird in Australia?  Isn't it named
> because its call resembles the donkey's neigh--well, hee-haw?

You're only mistaken in the sound of the call. It sounds nothing like a
donkey. It's closer to a hysterical, falsetto, human laugh.

You may or may not know that in several of the Warner Bros. Merrie
Melodies / Loony Tunes cartoons, a recording of the Kookaburra was
played when the protagonist was creeping through the jungle. (And not
just in the Tasmanian Devil cartoons). The Warner Bros. people probably
just called it the 'exotic-jungle-creature-noise'. I think its been used
in a lot of B movies as well, for the same purpose.

I have read that in New York, the Kookaburra's laugh is used as a
'reversing-truck-warning-noise', presumably because a plain 'beep-beep'
no longer consciously registers.

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