Yesterday I saw a short sentence appeared on the list of my instant
message, appearing with " many book need to read". Is this sentence
correct? In my opinion, books can not read something. So it should be
"many book need to be read". However, I am confused. Are anyone able to
give me advice?
Thank you very much.
dontbother - 15 Nov 2006 16:04 GMT
> Yesterday I saw a short sentence appeared on the list of my
> instant message, appearing with " many book need to read". Is
> this sentence correct? In my opinion, books can not read
> something. So it should be "many book need to be read". However,
> I am confused. Are anyone able to give me advice?
Without sufficient context it's difficult to tell whether the
sentence should be "many books [Note the plural ending on that noun]
need to be read" or "there are many books (that) I need to read". As
it stands in your post, all versions are incorrect.

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Michèle - 15 Nov 2006 16:06 GMT
Dans son message précédent, newbie_tw@yahoo.com.tw a écrit :
> Yesterday I saw a short sentence appeared on the list of my instant
> message, appearing with " many book need to read". Is this sentence
> correct?
I think it is not.
"Many books need to be read" seems better..
In my opinion, books can not read something. So it should be
> "many book need to be read". However, I am confused. Are anyone able to
> give me advice?
>
> Thank you very much.
Hatunen - 15 Nov 2006 16:26 GMT
>Yesterday I saw a short sentence appeared on the list of my instant
>message, appearing with " many book need to read". Is this sentence
>correct? In my opinion, books can not read something. So it should be
>"many book need to be read". However, I am confused. Are anyone able to
>give me advice?
Why are you confused? Did you not understand what the message
meant? did you think it possible the sender had books that could
read?
Are you looking for fully grammatical messages in instant
messaging?
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Maria - 16 Nov 2006 06:04 GMT
> Yesterday I saw a short sentence appeared on the list of my instant
> message, appearing with " many book need to read". Is this sentence
> correct?
No (as you apparently suspect).
> ......In my opinion, books can not read something. So it should be
> "many book need to be read". However, I am confused. Are anyone able
> to give me advice?
The following could work:
"Many a book needs to be read" ...
"Many books need to be read" ...
"Many books need reading"...
All three examples mean the same thing. (In the first two offered,
"read" would be pronounced "red." The "red" pronunciation signals the
past tense.)
Good luck, and please be aware that many who write instant messages take
shortcuts; the messages are generally not necessarily grammatically
correct.
(Also note: "Are anyone able to give me advice?" should be "Is anyone
able to give me advice?" "Anyone" is singular. Had you said, "Are the
people of AUE able to give me advice?" that would have been fine --
"people" is plural.)

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Garrett Wollman - 16 Nov 2006 06:35 GMT
>"Many books need to be read" ...
>"Many books need reading"...
A distressingly common mixup of these two is very close to the OP's
query: "Many books need read". (Or, in general, {noun-phrase need(s)
past-participle}.) One I see fairly frequently is "needs fixed".
-GAWollman

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Donna Richoux - 16 Nov 2006 13:25 GMT
> >"Many books need to be read" ...
> >"Many books need reading"...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> -GAWollman
That gets discussed here about every two years. Apparently it's a
widespread grammatical construction in Scotland as well as the US
Midwest.
There's a brief entry in the AUE FAQ under "It needs cleaned."

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