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Jack - 20 Nov 2006 09:37 GMT
What does "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?

Or Should I say

What do "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?

Which one is correct?

Thanks

Jack
dontbother - 20 Nov 2006 09:47 GMT
> What does "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?
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> Which one is correct?

"What do 'freak-out' and 'pull-up' mean?"

These are two separate and distinct terms (idioms).

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Jacky Luk - 20 Nov 2006 09:53 GMT
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>> What does "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?
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> These are two separate and distinct terms (idioms).

Hi,
I think I should raise another better example. But now I can't think of one.
Sometimes if both the terms are not countable, do I still use the plural
form of this statement?
Thanks
Jack
Jacky Luk - 20 Nov 2006 09:55 GMT
Let me think about it for a while, I am a bit confused.
Thanks
Jack

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> Thanks
> Jack
Brad Germolene - 20 Nov 2006 10:08 GMT
>Let me think about it for a while, I am a bit confused.
>Thanks
>Jack

Please don't top-post.

Thanks

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>> Jack

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dontbother - 20 Nov 2006 12:18 GMT
> "dontbother" <dontbother@mushmail.mom>
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> think of one. Sometimes if both the terms are not countable, do
> I still use the plural form of this statement?

"What do 'music' and 'furniture' mean?"

Neither music nor furniture is countable.

OTOH, "What does 'cut and dried' mean?" because the expression "cut
and dried" is a singular concept. The same goes for "What does
'whiskey and water' mean?" and "What does 'gin and tonic' mean?" and
"What does 'f.ck off and die' mean?"

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Mark Brader - 20 Nov 2006 18:23 GMT
> What does "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?
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> Which one is correct?

Plural -- the second one.
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Eric Walker - 21 Nov 2006 03:48 GMT
> > What does "freak-out" and "pull-up" mean?
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> Plural -- the second one.

Of course, everything has complications, and this question of number is
no exception.  There are certain pairings in which the connection
between the individual things is commonly felt to be so strong that
what ought grammatically to be two objects, and hence want a
plural-form verb, is considered one thing and take a singular-form
verb:

 A horse and carriage *was* waiting outside.

 A cup and saucer *was* all the table held.

There's no hard rule, just idiomatic notions of plurality and
singularity.
 
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