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Buckwheat Soba - 20 Nov 2006 09:02 GMT Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in question)?
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Derek Turner - 20 Nov 2006 11:00 GMT > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it > (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on > the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in > question)? Modification OF the electric/magnetic field? need more context.
mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 20 Nov 2006 11:41 GMT > > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Modification OF the electric/magnetic field? need more context. In data processing it is quite common to talk about databases containing records which have fields which can be modified.
Here is an imaginary record with six fields. One could modify the first, or surname field, to read 'Jones' by doing a bit of typing in a suitable software program. One could modify it mischievously or carelessly by deleting everything, leaving a blank field.
Smith Jane 05041952 31 High Street Oxford OX1 2BB
SQL programmers talk about modifying fields quite a lot.
>From a SQL advice web site:- Updating Existing Records
Modify one field at a time
!Again, be careful with syntax. Quote marks need to go around text but not around numbers.
mysql 4.1.16-nt-max> update table01 set field03='new info' where field01=1;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
Will - 20 Nov 2006 14:17 GMT > > > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > > > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > SQL programmers talk about modifying fields quite a lot. Real SQL programmers talk about columns.
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R H Draney - 20 Nov 2006 22:30 GMT mike.j.harvey@gmail.com filted:
>> > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more >> > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >In data processing it is quite common to talk about databases >containing records which have fields which can be modified. If the rec.arts.sf-fantasy bunch were still here, we could ask them if the term describes small-scale terraforming....r
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Don Phillipson - 20 Nov 2006 12:57 GMT > > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it > > (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on > > the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in > > question)? Only the context can make the meaning clear, but this is how the term was used 50 years ago. Histories of new aircraft offer one context because by the time of the Second World War aircraft design was both complex (i.e. many details were changed between first design and everyday employment in use) and fully documented (in manufacturers' records and air force orders sent out to squadrons and airfields.) Thus we can know that for particular new types there were X thousand changes at the factory before mass production was reduced to routine, and after that Y hundred field modifications, i.e. changes effected by local engineers and mechanics in squadron service. "Field" is here everyday military jargon, meaning out on campaign rather than at home in barracks.
The phrase might be used similarly today for changes made locally. E.g. the computer circuit board in our kitchen refrigerator (new 1995) was imperfect and was replaced free by the Sears Co. vendor, by a single repairman who changed it in our kitchen, not at the Sears repair yard. This was a field modification.
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Nick Spalding - 20 Nov 2006 11:33 GMT Buckwheat Soba wrote, in <ejrqvp$mcl$2@news.wss.yale.edu> on Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:02:49 +0000 (UTC):
> Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it > (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on > the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in > question)? That is how I understand it, sometimes with the implication that it is a temporary fix which will be replaced by a formal manufacturer-supplied change at a later date. I was responsible for such a couple of times during my days as an IBM Customer Engineer. One of them never was formally fixed and I was sorely tempted to remove it when I left.
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Mark Brader - 20 Nov 2006 18:43 GMT Richard Fontana:
> > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it > > (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on > > the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in > > question)? Nick Spalding:
> That is how I understand it, sometimes with the implication that it is a > temporary fix which will be replaced by a formal manufacturer-supplied > change at a later date. Rather than "temporary", I think the key word is "unapproved". That's what makes it a "modification": it deviates from the manufacturer's design.
To take a low-tech example, say a bolt was damaged and the correct replacement bolt is 1.05 inches long, but the technician uses a regular 1-inch bolt from the hardware store, because he doesn't have the other kind and it seems to fit all right. That's the sort of thing, although I think the phrase is more likely to be used with electronics.
I guess if the owner himself modifies the device, as in an attempt to "soup up" its performance, that would also qualify.
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Nick Spalding - 20 Nov 2006 20:37 GMT Mark Brader wrote, in <12m3tqg47h23d7e@corp.supernews.com> on Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:43:28 -0000:
> Richard Fontana: > > > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I guess if the owner himself modifies the device, as in an attempt to > "soup up" its performance, that would also qualify. The one which I was tempted to remove was to allow the user to use the IBM supplied equipment for the purpose for which it was bought. A perfectly legitimate program sequence as per the PoO caused the machine to stop with red lights blazing. I figured out what was happening and did a bit of creative wire wrapping to stop it resulting in one happy customer.
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Mark Brader - 20 Nov 2006 23:12 GMT > I figured out what was happening and did a bit of creative wire wrapping > to stop it resulting in one happy customer. And just imagine, by adding a single comma you could have had a fix that *would* have resulted in one happy customer.
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Nick Spalding - 21 Nov 2006 12:26 GMT Mark Brader wrote, in <12m4dicge6f1901@corp.supernews.com> on Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:12:12 -0000:
> > I figured out what was happening and did a bit of creative wire wrapping > > to stop it resulting in one happy customer. > > And just imagine, by adding a single comma you could have had a fix that > *would* have resulted in one happy customer. D'oh!
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Robin Bignall - 21 Nov 2006 22:27 GMT >Mark Brader wrote, in <12m4dicge6f1901@corp.supernews.com> > on Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:12:12 -0000: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >D'oh! That comma was intentionally left blank. IBM tradition.
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Salvatore Volatile - 21 Nov 2006 22:02 GMT > That comma was intentionally left blank. IBM tradition. Truly?
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Robin Bignall - 22 Nov 2006 22:31 GMT >> That comma was intentionally left blank. IBM tradition. > >Truly? Truly.
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andy M - 22 Nov 2006 10:58 GMT Mark Brader schrieb:
> Richard Fontana:
> Rather than "temporary", I think the key word is "unapproved". That's > what makes it a "modification": it deviates from the manufacturer's design. Not necessarily at all. If you discover a design weaknesses in installed units (which are universally referred to as "out in the field", even if they are actually in someones bathroom) then they are likely to be repared in situ rather than recalled to a workshop.
Your usage - A non-approved modification to a unit as a result of local usage, is certainly also correct, but "unapproved" is in no way implied.
> To take a low-tech example, say a bolt was damaged and the correct > replacement bolt is 1.05 inches long, but the technician uses a regular > 1-inch bolt from the hardware store, because he doesn't have the other > kind and it seems to fit all right. Thats not a field modification, thats a botch ;-).
If the technician found his "1.05 Inch" (damn those silly imperial units) bolt was falling out as a result of vibration, and he drilled a hole in it to put in a securing split pin, then "that would be a field modification, as would the same technician inserting a new, replacement self-securing bolt supplied by the manufacturer.
> That's the sort of thing, although > I think the phrase is more likely to be used with electronics. Not at all.
A standard "field modification" when I was working for a major electrical company was finding some housing in the field was filling with water and drilling a hole to let it out again. Often the hile would even be included in the next drawing update.
> I guess if the owner himself modifies the device, as in an attempt to > "soup up" its performance, that would also qualify. For instance.
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R J Valentine - 20 Nov 2006 17:04 GMT } Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more } engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it } (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on } the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in } question)?
I suspect that it has military origins that suggest actual outdoor fields. At first a number of usages flitted past, but they elude me just now, but there is at least the concept of "field-grade officer" (major and above) who are expected to function autonomously if necessary.
My own background is as a fixed-station radio transmitter repairman back in the early sixties. In effect I was a draft dodger, but I did it by enlisting in the Regular Army with a guarantee of the longest school available to repair the biggest, warmest equipment I could find in the catalog to avoid both combat and Greenland-like weather. The Army has a tradition of training people for one thing and assigning them to do something else, and their leverage in my case was to give me a choice between volunteering for retraining as a fixed station communications technical controller or being sent to Vietnam (pre-Tonkin) to repair mobile equipment. So it was, let's see, cushiest job in the army in a nice place near Tokyo or field work in Vietnam. Irregardless of *some* people's impressions, I'm not entirely stupid, so I ended up spending a couple of years in Japan, both pre- and post-Tonkin. Just as later as a computer systems analyst when I wasn't actually supposed to be doing any programming, as a controller I wasn't supposed to be doing any repairing, but I wasn't above doing some field modifications when necessary.
There are also "field commissions" and "field expedients" and so on, but I would be surprised if any engineering applications weren't military metaphors.
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Nick Atty - 20 Nov 2006 19:01 GMT >Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more >engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it >(I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on >the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in >question)? I think you've got it. Here's a good example:
http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/publications/bulletins/aviation/nrb_aviation_IV.htm
where it states:
Distinctive aircraft markings such as nose art should be considered examples of workmanship. Other field modifications should fall under this category. An F4F squadron stationed on aircraft carrier CV-6 in 1942, installed steel boiler plate to protect its pilots in a time prior to factory installation of aircraft armor plate on F4Fs. This modification is an example of field response to an immediate need.
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UC - 20 Nov 2006 19:23 GMT > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Buckwheat Soba "Field modification" sounds like a modification made in the field rather than at a factory or repair facility.
Jitze Couperus - 20 Nov 2006 20:34 GMT >Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more >engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it >(I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on >the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in >question)? In the days of mainframe computers, the term "Field Mod" could have both an official meaning and a euphemistic one.
Official field mods tended to be minor hardware changes (usualy in the backplane wiring that connected all the boards together) to improve reliabilty ar correct an outright error in the original design of the machine as originaly shipped from the factory. Or it might be the installation of a higher capacity fan to do a better job of cooling down some component where the original fan was insuffient. Something of that ilk.
The euphemism referred to local modifications that were (usualy) done to circumvent some safety feature or other damn nuisance which made it difficult to get the job done.
On big high speed printers there was frequently a safety switch that caused operation to halt when the main hood was opened to gain accress to the paper feed mechanism. But sometime it was necessary to run with the hood open in order to facilitate correct tracking of the fanfold paper. In this case a "field mod" was devised to jam the safety switch - completely against the rules and known only to the operators on graveyard shift.
That's just one example of the euphemistic use. Another example had to do with the environmental sensors on the mainframe which constantly monitored voltage, pressure and temperature of the chilled water supply, air humidty, smoke. etc. At one particular site we had a problem where the machine would do an emergency shut-down when it sensed water pressure loss due too many loos being flushed simultaneously. This happened very regularly when the "girls in the punch room" (Yes - that's what they were called) broke simultaneously for mid-morning coffee. Accordingly a "field mod" was fitted so that the sensor would always report "OK" no matter what. This recipe for disaster was fulfilled one Christmas when the site shut down their main hot-water supply to save energy over the holidays. So the dehumidifiers failed, and we returned after New Year's to find the mainframe sporting a magnificent coat of icicles. Some thousands of boards had to be replaced before we had the beast up and running again.
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Buckwheat Soba - 20 Nov 2006 22:19 GMT > In the days of mainframe computers, the term "Field Mod" could have > both an official meaning and a euphemistic one. Truly!
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Philip Eden - 21 Nov 2006 12:38 GMT > Is the term "field modification" a standard term in one or more > engineering disciplines or otherwise, and, if so, how would you define it > (I assume it means "modification in the field" rather than, I suppose, on > the premises of the manufacturer or other originator of the thing in > question)? It's probably not directly relevant to your question, but in meteorology (and in some other scientific disciplines too) "field modification" is what you do to make minor changes to the initialised (geographical) field of a given parameter when running a sequence of prediction routines. The action is also called "bogusing" (although most meteorologists insist on spelling it with two esses), and the whole process is often called "ensemble forecasting".
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Mark Brader - 22 Nov 2006 08:16 GMT Philip Eden:
> It's probably not directly relevant to your question, but in > meteorology (and in some other scientific disciplines too) > "field modification" is what you do to make minor changes to the > initialised (geographical) field of a given parameter when running > a sequence of prediction routines. ... "Geographical field of a parameter"? What's that when it's at home? Can you give an example of such a modification?
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Philip Eden - 22 Nov 2006 10:22 GMT > Philip Eden: >> It's probably not directly relevant to your question, but in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "Geographical field of a parameter"? What's that when it's at home? > Can you give an example of such a modification? By all means, though a 'please' would have been nice. The geographical representation of pressure distribution (or 'pressure field'), similar to those charts with isobars on that you may be lucky enough to get on your local TV station, is actually defined by a regular grid of values. Those values are automatically interpolated from real observations. Sometimes gaps exist in those observations and the human forecaster may decide that he or she can get a better representation of the pressure distribution by inserting a bogus grid-point value, thus modifying the field. (I'm simplifying somewhat.)
(In practice, sea-level pressure fields aren't used; rather a geopotential height field at the 1000 hPa level.)
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Mark Brader - 23 Nov 2006 04:34 GMT Mark Brader:
> > "Geographical field of a parameter"? What's that when it's at home? > > Can you give an example of such a modification? Philip Eden:
> By all means, though a 'please' would have been nice. My tone was quite polite. You should listen more carefully. :-)
> The geographical > representation of pressure distribution (or 'pressure field'), similar to > those charts with isobars on that you may be lucky enough to get on > your local TV station, is actually defined by a regular grid of values. Ah. I wondered if that might be it. This sense of "field" was unfamiliar.
> Sometimes gaps exist in those observations and the human forecaster > may decide that he or she can get a better representation of the > pressure distribution by inserting a bogus grid-point value, thus > modifying the field. (I'm simplifying somewhat.) Got it. *THANKS!*
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