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Learner - 22 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
Hello,

I am just wondering if the below sentence is correct.

"Does Mr.Robert of Wane county has any need for .NET? I am looking for
a different project around."

Thanks
-L
the Omrud - 22 Nov 2006 13:48 GMT
Learner <pradev@gmail.com> had it:

> Hello,
>
>  I am just wondering if the below sentence is correct.

No.

> "Does Mr.Robert of Wane county has any need for .NET? I am looking for
         ^^                     ^^^
 there should be a space        have
       after Mr.

> a different project around."

This makes no sense - you'll have to explain what you are trying to
say.

Also I very much doubt whether Mr. Robert needs .NET;  he might need
a .NET programmer, or a .NET training course, or some .NET software.

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Bob G - 22 Nov 2006 13:51 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks
> -L

Does Mr. Robert of Wane County have any need for .NET? I am looking
around for a different project.
Learner - 22 Nov 2006 13:59 GMT
Thanks for the reply. I thought of using "have" instead of "has" but
did it in rush.

"Does Mr.Robert of Wane county has any need for .NET " is a complete
blunder and tells that my communciation is not good. Or it is
acceptable upto some extent?

Thanks
-L
> > Hello,
> >
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> Does Mr. Robert of Wane County have any need for .NET? I am looking
> around for a different project.
Tony Cooper - 22 Nov 2006 15:15 GMT
> "Does Mr.Robert of Wane county has any need for .NET " is a complete
>blunder and tells that my communciation is not good. Or it is
>acceptable upto some extent?

A complete blunder in that "has" should be "have" and "county" should
be capitalized.  When you refer to a county, you don't capitalize the
word.  When you refer to specific county - Wane County - you do.

Example:  He lives in the county, not the city, but Wane County has a
fire department.

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Mark Brader - 23 Nov 2006 04:46 GMT
> When you refer to a county, you don't capitalize the
> word.  When you refer to specific county - Wane County - you do.

(He means "to a specific county".)

That's US and Canadian usage.  In the UK and Ireland they'd be more
likely to say just "Wane" or in some cases "County Wane".

I also observe that there is no county named Wane in any of these four
countries.  There are, however, 16 counties in the US named Wayne.
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Tony Cooper - 23 Nov 2006 05:01 GMT
>> When you refer to a county, you don't capitalize the
>> word.  When you refer to specific county - Wane County - you do.
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>That's US and Canadian usage.  In the UK and Ireland they'd be more
>likely to say just "Wane" or in some cases "County Wane".

He did have "Wayne county" in the post.  

>I also observe that there is no county named Wane in any of these four
>countries.  There are, however, 16 counties in the US named Wayne.

I figured that, but that seemed to be a typo rather than a usage
point.  I'm very forgiving of typos.  I need to be, since I omitted
the "a" in a Mad Anthony moment.

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Mark Brader - 23 Nov 2006 08:05 GMT
Mark Brader:
>> I also observe that there is no county named Wane in any of these four
>> countries.  There are, however, 16 counties in the US named Wayne.

Tony Cooper:
> I figured that, but that seemed to be a typo rather than a usage
> point.  I'm very forgiving of typos.  I need to be...

That might be counterproductive when the poster was asking for corrections,
though.
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Roland Hutchinson - 23 Nov 2006 06:33 GMT
>> When you refer to a county, you don't capitalize the
>> word.  When you refer to specific county - Wane County - you do.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> That's US and Canadian usage.  In the UK and Ireland they'd be more
> likely to say just "Wane" or in some cases "County Wane".

Or "Waneshire".  Or perhaps even "Wane Council (Unitary Authority)" -- kinda
like the Bay Area's own beloved "City and County of San Francisco", but
they got a whole heap of 'em in the muvvercountry anymore.

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Matthew Huntbach - 23 Nov 2006 09:18 GMT
>> When you refer to a county, you don't capitalize the
>> word.  When you refer to specific county - Wane County - you do.

> (He means "to a specific county".)
>
> That's US and Canadian usage.  In the UK and Ireland they'd be more
> likely to say just "Wane" or in some cases "County Wane".

The only British county referred to as "County X" is Durham, in order to
distinguish the county from the city of the same name. Otherwise, the
usage is found only in Ireland.

The county names are so familiar, and there isn't that many of them, that
any educated person would know from the name of one that it's a county,
and wouldn't need to add the word "county" to it. In this respect they
function more like the states of the US than the counties of the states.

Matthew Huntbach
Salvatore Volatile - 23 Nov 2006 08:48 GMT
> The only British county referred to as "County X" is Durham, in order to
> distinguish the county from the city of the same name. Otherwise, the
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> and wouldn't need to add the word "county" to it. In this respect they
> function more like the states of the US than the counties of the states.

Truly.  There are a couple of cases where substantial numbers of speakers
often add "State" to the name of the state in many contexts to distinguish
the state from a well-known city having the same name:  "New York State"
(vs. New York [LCIA] the city) and "Washington State" (vs. Washington,
D.C., a city on the other side of the continent).  I myself think
calling the state of New York "New York" is actually wrong most of the
time.

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Wood Avens - 23 Nov 2006 10:57 GMT
>The county names are so familiar, and there isn't that many of them, that
>any educated person would know from the name of one that it's a county,
>and wouldn't need to add the word "county" to it. In this respect they
>function more like the states of the US than the counties of the states.

True, but in several cases the suffix "-shire" performs the same
function.

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Brad Germolene - 23 Nov 2006 11:59 GMT
>>The county names are so familiar, and there isn't that many of them, that
>>any educated person would know from the name of one that it's a county,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>True, but in several cases the suffix "-shire" performs the same
>function.

Also true, but since nobody ever says "County Devon", "Country
Dorset", "County Surrey", "County Norfolk" or "County Cornwall" I
think Matthew's point still holds.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 27 Nov 2006 21:05 GMT
> Also true, but since nobody ever says "County Devon", "Country
> Dorset", "County Surrey", "County Norfolk" or "County Cornwall" I
> think Matthew's point still holds.

Actually, you do get a few Google hits in .uk.  There are some 38,800
hits for "county devon" for example.  Granted, the vast majority have
punctuation between the two words, but you do find things like

  FORELAND, a headland in the Bristol Channel near Countisbury,
  county Devon.

         http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Miscellaneous/index.html

which is a quotation from the 1868 _National Gazetteer of Great
Britain and Ireland_.  (There are lots of other hits on the same
page.)  So it appears that it once was common in the UK, as well.

Interestingly, that site has 343 pages with hits for "county devon",
but none for "county dorset", "county norfolk" or "county surrey", and
only two for "county cornwall".

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