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Igor (t4a) - 28 Dec 2006 19:03 GMT
In Wikipedia, Jeff Foxworthy was given as an example of a comedian
speaking with an genuine Southern accent (he is from Georgia). After
ordering his CD on-line, I received "you might be a redneck if ..."
within less than 24 hours (standard delivery). Yes, thinks are
different nowadays ...

Anyway, the second track on this CD is entitled "Words in the South"
and contains some puzzling words and expressions. I prepared this clip.

http://home.arcor.de/t2c/dog.mp3 (43 KB)

My dad would use this word like, a dog was coming in his yard. My dad
would run out on the porch and holler: "You run outta here."

Any corrections, additions, and comments are welcome.

Regards,
Igor
CDB - 28 Dec 2006 22:40 GMT
> In Wikipedia, Jeff Foxworthy was given as an example of a comedian
> speaking with an genuine Southern accent (he is from Georgia). After
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>
> Any corrections, additions, and comments are welcome.

That's about what I get: "My Dad will use this word, like, a dog's
come in his yard, my dad will run out on the porch and holler, 'Y'all
[r...] outa here.'"  Couldn't make out the key word, of course.

Did the rest of the cut make it clear Foxworthy was talking about the
word "run"?  It doesn't seem  unusual enough in that context for
comment; but the word must be spotlighted somewhere nearby in the
monologue.  Maybe "r'outa" as a single word?
nancy13g@verizon.net - 28 Dec 2006 23:30 GMT
> That's about what I get: "My Dad will use this word, like, a dog's
> come in his yard, my dad will run out on the porch and holler, 'Y'all
> [r...] outa here.'"  Couldn't make out the key word, of course.

Isn't part of Foxworthy's comedy routine that he *makes up* words that
are actually the jumbled-together syllables you hear when Southerners
talk rapidly? I'd guess that's what this clip is -- he's made up a new
"word" that seems to be based on the phrase "Y'all get on out of here!"

Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The clip
given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he say the
nonsense word more clearly first, before the part that's given in the
clip?
Igor (t4a) - 29 Dec 2006 13:10 GMT
> > That's about what I get: "My Dad will use this word, like, a dog's
> > come in his yard, my dad will run out on the porch and holler, 'Y'all
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> nonsense word more clearly first, before the part that's given in the
> clip?

Foxworthy does not give any explanation for his jokes, at least not on
the CD I have. I added a tad more audio to the clip I first posted
here.

I don't know if it helps:

http://home.arcor.de/t2c/dog16.mp3 (109 KB)

Are there more CDs with him available? He is funny although, earthy in
part. But what should I expect from an "RN"? ;-) In a way he pleases
the stereotypes one might have about the South. However, as long as he
dares to present those in front of a Texan audience and leaves the
stage afterwards unharmed, well, -  without forgetting to introduce
himself as a Georgia-born Southerner first -, it might be okay.

Regards,
Igor
nancy13g@verizon.net - 29 Dec 2006 14:45 GMT
>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The clip
>> given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he say the
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> the CD I have. I added a tad more audio to the clip I first posted
> here.

I'm remembering more about his comedy routine now. The one time I saw
him do his "Southern words" routine on television, he actually held up
cards with the "words" printed on them, and then defined the word. The
one I specifically remember is when he held up a card that said "JEET"
and then used it in a sentence: "Jeet yet? I've got some sandwiches
ready" thereby, of course, indicating that "Jeet" was Southern-speak
for "Did you eat".

I'm guessing that the "get out of here" phrase in the audio clip was a
similar type of gag, and that it may not be possible to make coherent
English words out of the sounds you're hearing.
CyberCypher - 29 Dec 2006 15:00 GMT
[...]
> I'm guessing that the "get out of here" phrase in the audio clip was a
> similar type of gag, and that it may not be possible to make coherent
> English words out of the sounds you're hearing.

That phrase was "Geddon outta hyeuh" (Get on out of here") said with a
typical native Georgian accent. Perfectly coherent to anyone who speaks
the lingo or who has lived in that redneck of the woods.

Nobody can spell it -- and my attempt is just one possibility. You've
got to hear it to appreciate it.

-
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan.
Former resident (3 magnolian years) of Atlanta and Symrna, Georgia, USA
"...the human population is 90% gullible, violence-prone dipshits, ..."
Scott Adams, The Dilbert Blog, December 06, 2006
http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/
CDB - 29 Dec 2006 15:47 GMT
>>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The
>>> clip given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he
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> was a similar type of gag, and that it may not be possible to make
> coherent English words out of the sounds you're hearing.

Listening to the clip again as Igor has expanded it, I think the
"word" might be "you get right out of": "y'raata", sorta (where the
apostrophe represents a glottal stop standing in for "get").  If he
wants to get more Foxworthy online, there are some routines of his on
You Tube; I looked there for the clip under discussion, but couldn't
find it.
Pat Durkin - 29 Dec 2006 19:46 GMT
>>>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The
>>>> clip given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> You Tube; I looked there for the clip under discussion, but couldn't
> find it.
I hear "Yer outta here*", which doesn't seem remarkable to me.  I have
people say "I'm outta here", often enough.  Now, my hearing may be
defective, but without the video for which this clip is a partial
accompaniment, I think the question of what Foxworthy is really saying
is moot.  The only clue I get that I might be mistaken (from F's words
on the clip) is that he doesn't know how to spell it.

* Those arguments with the bartender, or those husband and wife
fights--Yer 86!
rzed - 30 Dec 2006 00:04 GMT
>>>>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains
>>>>> it. The clip given here seems like it's only the explanation
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> * Those arguments with the bartender, or those husband and wife
> fights--Yer 86!

If I can play too: I hear "gih on ouda  hyah", but without the
whitespace. I definitely do *not* hear a leading 'y', so to me,
the "y'all ... " and "yer ..." suggestions don't seem possible.

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Igor (t4a) - 29 Dec 2006 21:02 GMT
> >>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The
> >>> clip given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> You Tube; I looked there for the clip under discussion, but couldn't
> find it.

Thank you, I haven't checked You Tube yet but I will. There are also
two "redneck dictionaries" available, so they might cover at least a
part of the questions left.

What I am not certain about is: Is Foxworthy's style "Southern
Standard" or is it rather funny talk created by a comedian based on
Southern speech?

Regards,
Igor
Roland Hutchinson - 29 Dec 2006 23:02 GMT
> What I am not certain about is: Is Foxworthy's style "Southern
> Standard" or is it rather funny talk created by a comedian based on
> Southern speech?

It's funny talk based on what might be called Southern sub-standard.  

Part of the joke is that his special "vocabulary words" exaggerate "redneck"
speech characteristics that are stereotypically supposed to be marks of
ignorance and lack of culture, even if many of them are (in fact and in
real life) also shared by educated Southerners.

He's making fun (as an insider) of the "hillbilly" or "country bumpkin"
stereotype often perpetuated in, e.g., American films and TV. (Think "Dukes
of Hazard", "Beverly Hillbillies", "Lil' Abner" if any of those is
familiar.)

His speech when he is not using his exaggerated "funny" words is standard
American English, with a noticable "Southern accent" (that Southerners
would recognize as belonging to a specific part of the South, but others
generally would not) and maybe, as with every American, a bit of regional
vocabulary.  If there is such a thing as "Southern Standard", it would
qualify.

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Igor (t4a) - 02 Jan 2007 14:06 GMT
> >>> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The
> >>> clip given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> You Tube; I looked there for the clip under discussion, but couldn't
> find it.

Well, I found the video in which the discussed clip should be. It is
the _Redneck Stomp_.

It contains the same material as it appears on track two of the CD _you
might be a redneck if..., part one_. ...except for the short piece we
miss.

Regards,
Igor
Earle Jones - 08 Jan 2007 05:06 GMT
> >> Usually he tells you what the "word" is and then explains it. The clip
> >> given here seems like it's only the explanation -- did he say the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> similar type of gag, and that it may not be possible to make coherent
> English words out of the sounds you're hearing.

*
Jeetyet?
No, jew?
No, sgueet.

earle
*
(Birmingham born and bred, and Foxworthy is not funny.)
John Savage - 01 Jan 2007 03:40 GMT
>>> > That's about what I get: "My Dad will use this word, like, a dog's
>>> > come in his yard, my dad will run out on the porch and holler, 'Y'all
>>> > [r...] outa here.'"  Couldn't make out the key word, of course.

In the "southern speech" with which I am familiar, a perfect match for the
missing piece would be "rackoff". But then, I doubt that you'd be referring
to traits this far south, in Oz.
--
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