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Gunga Din - 29 Dec 2006 22:18 GMT

On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)

http://www.yaelf.com/questions.shtml

and then more recently, we have...

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Temp/Temp-SomeInterestingWordOrigins-ScrollDownA
Little-EH.htm

...who appears to be a moon-howling lunatic.

What's to be done in this sort of circumstance?

Kind regards,
Garry

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UC - 29 Dec 2006 22:24 GMT

> On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>
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> Kind regards,
> Garry

What is this about?

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Jitze Couperus - 30 Dec 2006 09:30 GMT

>> On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>>
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>
>What is this about?

Somebody has been pretending that they're his sheep whereas the
moutons in question belong to the original poster

(Sheep are always On Topic in this forum)

And "moon-howling lunatic" is technically redundant although
acceptable as used here for emphasis.

Jitze

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LaReina del Perros - 30 Dec 2006 01:29 GMT

>On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>
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>
>What's to be done in this sort of circumstance?

If you want to do anything at all about it, I'm afraid you'll have to
start with a polite letter to the owner of the infringing site. Are
you getting e-mail from people who think you're associated with this
guy? Mention to him that he's missing fan mail from people who've
accidentally picked up your address from this page. He'll probably be
willing to remove your own links, so long as he believes it's in his
interest and you're not trying to bully him.

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mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 30 Dec 2006 10:37 GMT

> >On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
> >
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> willing to remove your own links, so long as he believes it's in his
> interest and you're not trying to bully him.

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LFS - 30 Dec 2006 11:09 GMT

>>>On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>>>
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>>willing to remove your own links, so long as he believes it's in his
>>interest and you're not trying to bully him.

Header adjusted.

For information: the OP is a Highly Respected Regular, regrettably
somewhat irregular these days.

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Amethyst Deceiver - 30 Dec 2006 14:03 GMT

>> >On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>> >
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>> willing to remove your own links, so long as he believes it's in his
>> interest and you're not trying to bully him.

Mike, you seem to have forgotten to add anything.

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Linz
Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford
My accent may vary

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Mike Barnes - 30 Dec 2006 09:52 GMT

In alt.usage.english, Gunga Din wrote:

>On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>
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>
>What's to be done in this sort of circumstance?

Seek first to understand.

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Cheshire, England

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Amethyst Deceiver - 30 Dec 2006 12:55 GMT

>On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>
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>
>What's to be done in this sort of circumstance?

First, you write to him and remind him that it's good practice to ask
permission to copy other people's websites and to acknowledge such
copying, suggesting that if he asks and agrees to acknowledge
www.yaelf.com then permission will be granted. If he doesn't do so,
write to the ISP and ask them to close the page (or whatever the
technical term is) on the grounds of "passing off". No guarantees that
it'll work, but it's worth a try.

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Linz
Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford
My accent may vary

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Gunga Din - 07 Jan 2007 02:37 GMT

>>On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>>
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> technical term is) on the grounds of "passing off". No guarantees that
> it'll work, but it's worth a try.

Did the very polite thing like you suggested.

He replied saying that he needed $25 paid in advance to remove the material.

I went ahead and filed a full DMCA with his ISP, cc to this weird f.ck.
They came back and refused to progress it because there was insufficient
information.

Then he published an article saying that I was engaging in political
harrassment. And further saying that my demand to remove his offending
material was violating the spirit of the internet.

And then yet *another* one claiming that I was trying to boost the hits at
yaelf. Like oh yeah right.

Then I wrote a complaint to the Tampa Bay Mensa Society, and they came back
and said there was nothing they could do, but they also gave him a
bollocking and cc'd me.

And peeps, you wouldn't think that the Tampa Bay Mensa Society is the place
to be delivering strongly worded bollockings. But oh my. Indeed OH MY! In
truth, they can bollock to leave you numb. You read it and say "Oh my! Oh
my goodness gracious!" Dumbstruck. Breathless. Peeps, don't be fooled,
these folks could bollock for England.

This totally lifted my spirits and I decided to fight on.

OH! Then I suddenly remembered that I'm not just some poncey Brit, and in
fact have some landed credentials in LeftPondia as well. Apparently nobody
was expecting that one, and that surprise seemed to turn the corner on it.

So I put a massively compliant DMCA back to ThePlanet.com asking treble
damages in accordance with US law. Copy to the Dallas DA. Copy to the
Tampa Bay DA.

And then POOF! The offending material disappeared. Gone. Like it was
never there. Now as one might expect, that guy's home page does not exactly
depict me as one destined for sainthood. But then what can one expect where
English Usage is concerned? Now we all go to the neutral corner and wait I
guess...

I really and truly don't know what it is about English Usage that brings in
the whackos, but it does, doesn't it? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if
Jocko himself were lurking here under a nom de cyber.

English Usage. Once you peel off the respectable cover, it's just downright
*weird*.

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Skitt - 07 Jan 2007 18:06 GMT

>>> On the one hand we have (quietly minding its business mind you)
>>>
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> English Usage. Once you peel off the respectable cover, it's just
> downright *weird*.

Well, they do have some interesting people in Tampa. Have you met Rexy?

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Jes' fine

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