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State funeral? Oh, Ford!

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mailbox@cpacker.org - 31 Dec 2006 12:46 GMT
Brave new world? As of early Sunday
morning, while editing my Web site
"What News?", it looked like the
meaning of "state funeral" in the
U.S. had changed suddenly in a way
that would amuse Orwell, if not Huxley.

I haven't had a chance to pore over
the NY Times for possible clarification
buried inside, but up until
now the state funeral of a former
president has been held at the National
Cathedral, a couple of days after the
_lying in state_ at the Capitol. You
can verify this by looking up Reagan's
funeral in Wikipedia (do a Google
search on ["state funeral" Reagan
Wikipedia]).

But today the news media are
chattering about the "state funeral"
held yesterday at the U.S. Capitol.
I thought it was a news agency howler
confusing the two uses of "state"
until I checked the Wikipedia
article on "state funeral."
Weirdly enough, the entry has been
updated this very morning, and
refers to a Capitol service as
"the official 'state funeral'."
And now the news media are falling
over themselves to mention that
hardly anybody of note attended Ford's
"state funeral." Well sure...maybe all
the notables haven't gotten the word,
and are planning to be at the
Cathedral on Tuesday, as is the
custom...

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Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org
John W. Kennedy - 31 Dec 2006 15:36 GMT
> Brave new world? As of early Sunday
> morning, while editing my Web site
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Cathedral on Tuesday, as is the
> custom...

"I'm going to buy my little boy a reporter doll: wind it up, and it gets
it wrong."
         -- Stoppard, "Night and Day"

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Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
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mailbox@cpacker.org - 01 Jan 2007 12:15 GMT
> "I'm going to buy my little boy a reporter doll: wind it up, and it gets
> it wrong."
>           -- Stoppard, "Night and Day"

IIn this case maybe it's because
there seems to be no such thing as
an "offical" state funeral.
The NY Times on Sunday referred to
the "formal state funeral" that is
to be held on Tuesday. Uncle Sam's
own Web page at http://tinyurl.com/u3s43
refers to the entire period from
Dec. 28 through Jan 3 as the state
funeral, with the Cathedral ceremony
being the "national funeral service."

The situation reminds me of the words
used by the press to describe the
condition of injured persons:
serious, critical, etc. These have no
technical meaning -- you won't
find them in a medical dictionary.

--    
Charles Packer
http://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org
Peter Duncanson - 01 Jan 2007 16:07 GMT
>The situation reminds me of the words
>used by the press to describe the
>condition of injured persons:
>serious, critical, etc. These have no
>technical meaning -- you won't
>find them in a medical dictionary.

In the UK these terms are used by hospital spokespersons in
statements to the press.

They are used to summarise the state of a patient. I assume that a
doctor will have decided which category to assign a patient to for
the purposes of a statement to the news media.

It might be a bit far to say that these terms have no technical
meaning. They have a meaning in the context in which they are used.
This terminology appears to be relatively standard in English
worldwide.

Obviously the terms have no value in "doctoring" because of their
summary nature.

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Mark Brader - 02 Jan 2007 02:29 GMT
Charles Packer:
>> The situation reminds me of the words used by the press to describe the
>> condition of injured persons: serious, critical, etc. These have no
>> technical meaning -- you won't find them in a medical dictionary.

Peter Duncanson:
> In the UK these terms are used by hospital spokespersons in
> statements to the press. ...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> This terminology appears to be relatively standard in English
> worldwide.

Yep.  <http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcritical.html>.
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Oleg Lego - 01 Jan 2007 16:50 GMT
The mailbox@cpacker.org entity posted thusly:

>> "I'm going to buy my little boy a reporter doll: wind it up, and it gets
>> it wrong."
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>technical meaning -- you won't
>find them in a medical dictionary.

The one that's always made me wonder is "guarded condition".
David Loftus - 02 Jan 2007 16:45 GMT
> The mailbox@cpacker.org entity posted thusly:
> >The situation reminds me of the words
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The one that's always made me wonder is "guarded condition".

It ought to be reserved for alleged drunk drivers who were injured and
are still in hospital but have not yet been charged.

David Loftus
Amethyst Deceiver - 01 Jan 2007 19:29 GMT
>The situation reminds me of the words
>used by the press to describe the
>condition of injured persons:
>serious, critical, etc. These have no
>technical meaning -- you won't
>find them in a medical dictionary.

Goodness. There are a lot of words you won't find in a medical
dictionary but they're still used with technical meanings by medics.
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