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Terry - 02 Jan 2007 03:58 GMT
My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
upper and lower GI.

He slept until 2PM and did not go to the appointment.  He lives with
his parents and uses his mom's car for transportation.

He has asked my niece to miss work and take him tomorrow.  He even had
her to call and reschedule the appointment.

What is a good word for him being dependant on her?

What is a good word for the opposite of independent?
Oleg Lego - 02 Jan 2007 04:16 GMT
The Terry entity posted thusly:

>My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
>upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>What is a good word for the opposite of independent?

Leech.
tinwhistler - 02 Jan 2007 04:18 GMT
> What is a good word for him being dependant on her?
>
> What is a good word for the opposite of independent?

"DPD individual" -- see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_personality_disorder

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CyberCypher - 02 Jan 2007 09:15 GMT
> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What is a good word for the opposite of independent?

A parasite, a moocher, a ne'er-do-well.

--
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan.
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Dick Chambers - 03 Jan 2007 01:19 GMT
>> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
>> upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> A parasite, a moocher, a ne'er-do-well.

I am surprised at you, Franke. Far too emotive a term. Laid-back, perhaps,
or "of the leisured classes". A person who sits and considers before he
acts. Indeed, a philosopher.

Richard Chambers        Leeds   UK.
CyberCypher - 03 Jan 2007 06:58 GMT
> >> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> >> upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> or "of the leisured classes". A person who sits and considers before he
> acts. Indeed, a philosopher.

I am, withal, an emotionally shakey-breaky philosopher. But I have two
jobs and depend only on myself, my friends, and anyone willing to
support me.

--
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan.
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humans as acting and judging individuals," Albert Einstein.
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LFS - 03 Jan 2007 07:09 GMT
>>>>My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
>>>>upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> I am, withal,

<applause>

an emotionally shakey-breaky philosopher. But I have two
> jobs and depend only on myself, my friends, and anyone willing to
> support me.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> humans as acting and judging individuals," Albert Einstein.
> http://tinyurl.com/yc9zzq

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UC - 03 Jan 2007 13:29 GMT
> >>>>My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> >>>>upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Laura
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I am a peripatetic leather worker, with awl. Have awl, will travel.
Roland Hutchinson - 04 Jan 2007 06:42 GMT
>> > I am, withal,
>>
>> <applause>
>>
>> an emotionally shakey-breaky philosopher.

> I am a peripatetic leather worker, with awl. Have awl, will travel.

Withal, thou art a cobbler, AICMFP.

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LFS - 04 Jan 2007 07:11 GMT
>>>>I am, withal,
>>>
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>
> Withal, thou art a cobbler, AICMFP.

No, he just writes cobblers.

Which is apparently also the name of a drink, according to OED:

A drink made of wine, sugar, lemon, and pounded ice, and imbibed through
a straw or other tube’ (Bartlett Dict. Amer.).

What other sort of tube would you drink through?

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Roland Hutchinson - 04 Jan 2007 11:10 GMT
>>>>>I am, withal,
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> What other sort of tube would you drink through?

Bartlett Dict. Amer. (i.e. Bartlett, John R. Dictionary of Americanisms
1848, 1859, 1860, 1876, saith the OED bibliography) was compiled back when
straws were straws.  A couple of online sources relate that the paper
drinking straw was invented in 1888.

But the question remains, what other sorts of tubes were around?

Presumably our Victorian forebears didn't go about in beaverskin-covered
beer tophats with gutta-percha tubing.  Or do I presume too much?

I would guess that glass or ceramic tubes could have been used for drinking,
and might have been considered non-straws.

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rzed - 04 Jan 2007 17:27 GMT
[...]

> But the question remains, what other sorts of tubes were around?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I would guess that glass or ceramic tubes could have been used
> for drinking, and might have been considered non-straws.

Some drinks are served up with cinnamon sticks or hollow candy sticks
to be used as straws.

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Robin Bignall - 04 Jan 2007 22:52 GMT
>[...]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Some drinks are served up with cinnamon sticks or hollow candy sticks
>to be used as straws.

Some AUEers have been known to suck port up through chocolate finger
biscuits.
(Photos at
http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html )

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Mike Lyle - 05 Jan 2007 15:50 GMT
[...]
> > No, he just writes cobblers.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I would guess that glass or ceramic tubes could have been used for drinking,
> and might have been considered non-straws.

Perhaps there were non-straw alternatives in the colonies: "Bearer,
bring the burra sahib a fresh chota womba for his cobbler, juldee!" Or
more economical households used the more durable reed? Or the less
economical ones had nice silver ones, like the flash gauchos' bombilla
for maté?

FTR, I can't be the only denizen who's actually been provided with real
straw straws -- chiefly sur le continong, but also once in the UK.

Note also the Cooperian cobbler: a delicious variation on the pie or
crumble theme, with scone dough instead of pastry. I find results
better with separate small rounds instead of an overall blanket.

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LFS - 05 Jan 2007 15:59 GMT
> Note also the Cooperian cobbler: a delicious variation on the pie or
> crumble theme, with scone dough instead of pastry. I find results
> better with separate small rounds instead of an overall blanket.

Goodness, I have always assumed that small rounds were the only way to
do it! A blanket approach must be horribly heavy and you wouldn't get
the juice bubbling up.

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Sara Lorimer - 05 Jan 2007 23:01 GMT
> > Note also the Cooperian cobbler: a delicious variation on the pie or
> > crumble theme, with scone dough instead of pastry. I find results
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> do it! A blanket approach must be horribly heavy and you wouldn't get
> the juice bubbling up.

Perhaps it's the modern version -- paving over the cobblestones.

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Mike Lyle - 05 Jan 2007 23:18 GMT
> > > Note also the Cooperian cobbler: a delicious variation on the pie or
> > > crumble theme, with scone dough instead of pastry. I find results
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Perhaps it's the modern version -- paving over the cobblestones.

No, just my ignorant first attempt: I didn't have a recipe. There was
indeed an unsatisfactory sog.

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Paul Wolff - 04 Jan 2007 20:32 GMT
>>>I am a peripatetic leather worker, with awl. Have awl, will travel.
>>   Withal, thou art a cobbler, AICMFP.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>What other sort of tube would you drink through?

Is this a quiz?  Reader, I was there.  Cadbury's Chocolate Fingers, and
any port in a storm:

http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html

I'm very partial to a nice Herdwick.
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LFS - 05 Jan 2007 16:11 GMT
>>>> I am a peripatetic leather worker, with awl. Have awl, will travel.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html

Yes, I had forgotten all about that, and great fun it was, too. But I
don't think that a chocolate finger really counts as a tube. The liquid
eventually came through if you sucked quite hard (I think the pictures
show that) but only because the fingers are porous, not because they
have a hole down the middle which I think a tube must have.

> I'm very partial to a nice Herdwick.

Be careful, you might get a rather odd reputation if you go round saying
things like that.

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Wood Avens - 05 Jan 2007 17:31 GMT
>> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>show that) but only because the fingers are porous, not because they
>have a hole down the middle which I think a tube must have.

But also because we broke or bit the ends off, which made them more
tubaceous.

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Paul Wolff - 05 Jan 2007 20:08 GMT
>>> What other sort of tube would you drink through?

>> Is this a quiz?  Reader, I was there.  Cadbury's Chocolate Fingers,
>>and  any port in a storm:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>show that) but only because the fingers are porous, not because they
>have a hole down the middle which I think a tube must have.

Let's call it a labyrinthine tube.  It will have cleared as time, and
port, passed, though some further research may be indicated.

>>  I'm very partial to a nice Herdwick.
>
>Be careful, you might get a rather odd reputation if you go round
>saying things like that.

My name says it all.  I was thinking of nothing but the extraordinarily
delicious Herdwick lamb shanks served at the White Lion in Patterdale --
worth a detour, as M. Bibendum says.  Besides, they do have nice
friendly faces (carefully typed).
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LFS - 05 Jan 2007 22:53 GMT
>>>> What other sort of tube would you drink through?
>
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> Let's call it a labyrinthine tube.  It will have cleared as time, and
> port, passed, though some further research may be indicated.

I think you're right. We need an organiser.

>>>  I'm very partial to a nice Herdwick.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> worth a detour, as M. Bibendum says.  Besides, they do have nice
> friendly faces (carefully typed).

I agree but if I mention that I quite like sheep I may be overwhelmed by
kind gifts. There are a great many penguins being given away with
washing powder at the moment and they all seem to be ending up in my house.

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Skitt - 05 Jan 2007 23:11 GMT
> Paul Wolff wrote:
>> LFS writes

>>>>  I'm very partial to a nice Herdwick.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> washing powder at the moment and they all seem to be ending up in my
> house.

There's a penguin who has been living at our house for about twenty years.
http://home.comcast.net/~skitt99/penguin.jpg

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LFS - 05 Jan 2007 23:15 GMT
>>> LFS writes
>
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> There's a penguin who has been living at our house for about twenty years.
> http://home.comcast.net/~skitt99/penguin.jpg

Ah, bless! He is a good deal cuter than my current collection.

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Amethyst Deceiver - 05 Jan 2007 14:50 GMT
>No, he just writes cobblers.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>What other sort of tube would you drink through?

A licorice straw. A chocolate finger. A brandy snap, if you can get a
good enough seal.
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LFS - 05 Jan 2007 15:07 GMT
>>No, he just writes cobblers.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> A licorice straw. A chocolate finger. A brandy snap, if you can get a
> good enough seal.

Hah. The liquorice straws that used to come with sherbert fountains are
no longer hollow - you have to dip them. Most unsatisfactory. I'd
forgotten about the chocolate finger experiment: they were quite hard
work, though, because the liquid comes right through the whole thing
rather than up a hole in the middle. You'd need a very powerful suck to
use a brandy snap as a tube for imbibing as they have a larger diameter
(to accommodate the usual cream) and given their fragility I wonder what
effect that would have.

We could probably do with another experimental boink. Prof Page has been
asserting that his home-made gravadlax (a la Nigella) is better than
smoked salmon, a claim which deserves public testing.

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Amethyst Deceiver - 05 Jan 2007 15:36 GMT
>>>No, he just writes cobblers.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>(to accommodate the usual cream) and given their fragility I wonder what
>effect that would have.

I'm afraid that due to the wheat involved in all three, I cannot
assist with the rigorous experimentation required this time.

>We could probably do with another experimental boink. Prof Page has been
>asserting that his home-made gravadlax (a la Nigella) is better than
>smoked salmon, a claim which deserves public testing.

However, I could offer myself as a tester here, I'm sure.
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the Omrud - 02 Jan 2007 10:23 GMT
Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> had it:

> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> upper and lower GI.

Glycemic Index?  Goods Inwards?  Government Issue?

> He slept until 2PM and did not go to the appointment.  He lives with
> his parents and uses his mom's car for transportation.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What is a good word for him being dependant on her?

Lazy sod.

> What is a good word for the opposite of independent?

Dependent.

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Jeffrey Turner - 02 Jan 2007 15:56 GMT
> Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> had it:
>
>>My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
>>upper and lower GI.
>
> Glycemic Index?  Goods Inwards?  Government Issue?

Gastro-intestinal.  It's a series of tests of the digestive tract.

--Jeff

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the Omrud - 02 Jan 2007 16:12 GMT
Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> had it:

> > Terry <kilowatt@charter.net> had it:
> >
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>
> Gastro-intestinal.  It's a series of tests of the digestive tract.

Ah.  An adjective without a noun.  Like "a physical".

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Peter Duncanson - 02 Jan 2007 16:43 GMT
>Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> had it:
>
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>
>Ah.  An adjective without a noun.  Like "a physical".

..which sounds like the Scottish legal official the Fiscal.

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Mike Lyle - 02 Jan 2007 17:33 GMT
> >Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> had it:
> >
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>
> ..which sounds like the Scottish legal official the Fiscal.

They're so laid-back up there. Procuring is illegal in England and
Wales.

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Roland Hutchinson - 02 Jan 2007 17:11 GMT
> Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> had it:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Ah.  An adjective without a noun.  Like "a physical".

gastro-intestinal (sc. series [sc. of tests]).

Indeed, like "a physical (sc. examination)".

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R H Draney - 02 Jan 2007 18:07 GMT
> Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@localnet.com> had it:
>
> > Gastro-intestinal.  It's a series of tests of the digestive tract.
>
> Ah.  An adjective without a noun.  Like "a physical".

See also "piano"....

Or for that matter "principal" (=BrE "headmaster")....r
Roland Hutchinson - 03 Jan 2007 01:09 GMT
>> Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@localnet.com> had it:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> See also "piano"....

And "piccolo".

Cf. "cello", a diminutive suffix without a stem.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 04 Jan 2007 21:34 GMT
>>> Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@localnet.com> had it:
>>>
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>
> And "piccolo".

And "bass".

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Roland Hutchinson - 04 Jan 2007 21:59 GMT
>>>> Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@localnet.com> had it:
>>>>
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>
> And "bass".

And "celesta".

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 04 Jan 2007 22:31 GMT
>>>>> Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@localnet.com> had it:
>>>>>
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>
> And "celesta".

And "harmonica".

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Jeffrey Turner - 03 Jan 2007 00:17 GMT
> Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> had it:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Ah.  An adjective without a noun.  Like "a physical".

I'll admit I've usually heard it as a "GI series," but it's
understandable in an informal forum standing alone.

--Jeff

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UC - 03 Jan 2007 01:25 GMT
'Lazy bum" is redundant.

> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What is a good word for the opposite of independent? 'Dependent'.
Wordsmith - 04 Jan 2007 09:48 GMT
> My niece's boyfriend does not have a job.  He was scheduled to go for a
> upper and lower GI.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What is a good word for the opposite of independent?

How 'bout "slugabed"? From *Romeo & Juliet*, I think.

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