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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2007Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com
Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com You can check it out at http://tinyurl.com/yl9ch8 or http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/01/01/australia.slang.reut/index.html It's a Reuters article date-lined Sydney. -- Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan. "I once asked a senior staffer of a brilliant Senator why the Senator didn't take a stronger position in favor of Net Neutrality. 'No Senator remains a Senator opposing an industry with that much money' was his answer." Lawrence Lessig, Lessig Blog, December 24, 2006 http://www.lessig.org/blog/ > Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > It's a Reuters article date-lined Sydney. "Rooland", perhaps surprisingly, was new on me. Some, of course, aren't uniquely or originally Australian. "Stoush" is Scots, or maybe even general Brit; and "Manchester goods" used to be an ordinary term for cotton cloth all over the place. Students eager to expand their personal Oz lexica may care to take a look at: http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/dict/slang.html but it doesn't give examples or pronunciation.  SignatureMike. >> Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >general Brit; and "Manchester goods" used to be an ordinary term for >cotton cloth all over the place. Many years ago when I lived in the Netherlands, a pair of corduroy trousers was known in Dutch as a "Manchester Broek" (Manchester Trousers) but the toponym was pronounced "manSHESter". >Students eager to expand their personal Oz lexica may care to take a >look at: >http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/dict/slang.html >but it doesn't give examples or pronunciation. One also has to be carefull to distinguish between the Oz "chunder" and the BritE "chunter" which are completely different concepts. The latter describes a happeir activity - or at least one that is not as unpleasant. Jitze >> Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >general Brit; and "Manchester goods" used to be an ordinary term for >cotton cloth all over the place. [...] Rooland was coined just for the heading, methinks. While the article was pretty accurate, the bit about the pie was pretty far fetched. First, it is rarely, if ever, called a "dog's eye" (I've never heard that, even when elephant's) and you don't take one along as a possible snack. They must be purchased at your destination: hot. For the record. SignatureRichard Bollard Canberra Australia To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT. > >> Chundering through Rooland_Slang in Oz on CNN.com > >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > along as a possible snack. They must be purchased at your destination: > hot. Those pies were always a special treat for me as a little boy: I'm quite sure it would be a madeleine moment if I could taste a real old-days one. The sad thing is that, to pursue the posh French theme, the pies themselves are probably unchanged, and hence more neiges d'antan than cakes and herb tea. I raised an eyebrow at "dog's eye", too; but it's in Macquarie. Nevertheless, I have a feeling that there's quite a lot of fake or spoof Strine out there, invented not only by Barry H. With less success, I've had a go at coining a few bits myself over the years. SignatureMike. [...] >> While the article was pretty accurate, the bit about the pie was >> pretty far fetched. First, it is rarely, if ever, called a "dog's eye" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the pies themselves are probably unchanged, and hence more neiges >d'antan than cakes and herb tea. There are pies and there are pies. The ones from my yoof were probably made with real animal fats and hence had a better pastry. The old Four 'n' Twenty is still sold at the footy. >I raised an eyebrow at "dog's eye", too; but it's in Macquarie. >Nevertheless, I have a feeling that there's quite a lot of fake or >spoof Strine out there, invented not only by Barry H. With less >success, I've had a go at coining a few bits myself over the years. An old friend of mine was a particularly rich vein. He gave me "elephant's" (trunk=drunk), "ronnie" (Coote = root), "Merrickish" (for something buggered, from John Merrick). We could hold conversations in peculiar slang "look at that, so merrickish you couldn't ronnie it even if elephants". Eventually we made a quick elephant man sound to indicate that something was not quite pukkah. An interesting observation as to the effectiveness of reptition was that this sound (usage) caught on amongst cow-orkers who had no idea where it came from but had obviously grasped its meaning. SignatureRichard Bollard Canberra Australia To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT. |
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