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Easily confused numbers and alphabet

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howa - 05 Jan 2007 03:23 GMT
are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
alphabet vs alphabet?

such as

1 vs I
l(L) vs I
2 vs Z
5 vs S

?
Steve Hayes - 05 Jan 2007 04:08 GMT
>are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
>alphabet vs alphabet?
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>2 vs Z
>5 vs S

Yes, particularly with certain fonts in GUIs.

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howa - 05 Jan 2007 04:20 GMT
Steve Hayes 寫道:

> >are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
> >alphabet vs alphabet?
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> Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
> E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

any links I can find those list or information?
thanks.
Mike Lyle - 06 Jan 2007 17:09 GMT
> Steve Hayes 寫道:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> any links I can find those list or information?
> thanks.

You seem to have started your own list very successfully, so it
shouldn't be difficult to complete it. Or have I not understood your
request properly?

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Don Phillipson - 05 Jan 2007 22:33 GMT
> are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
> alphabet vs alphabet?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 2 vs Z
> 5 vs S

Presumably the aim of the most ambitious
typographic designers is to reduce this list
to zero by creating letters (or numerals) that
cannot possibly be confused for numerals
(or letters.)  I am uncertain whether this means
everyone ought to cross their numeral sevens
or the French ought to give up doing so . . .

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Oleg Lego - 06 Jan 2007 16:59 GMT
The Don Phillipson entity posted thusly:

>> are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
>> alphabet vs alphabet?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>everyone ought to cross their numeral sevens
>or the French ought to give up doing so . . .

They should just stop writing a "1" as if it were a "7", innit?

It has always seemed odd to me that written language should have any
ambiguities inherent in the normal, accepted, and school-taught
characters.

I guess I can understand the need for early typewriters to make the
lower-case "L" do for the numeral "1", in order to save a key and all
its associated design work and mechanical parts, but why on Earth
would the designers of a computer font have carried that over into
such abominations as "Courier"? I mean, it's not as if you use the
same ASCII code for both characters.

The mention of a "2"-looking capital "Q" brings back memories of
elementary school, where I had more than a few arguments about how a
capital "Q" _should_ be written. I have never written them that way
when I was not forced to by teachers.
Robert Bannister - 06 Jan 2007 00:45 GMT
> are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
> alphabet vs alphabet?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 2 vs Z
> 5 vs S

The only ones I occasionally find confusing are 1/l and 0/O, depending
on the font. With handwriting, there is more possibility for confusion -
have you seen the capital Q, that some people write rather like a 2?

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Amethyst Deceiver - 07 Jan 2007 14:16 GMT
>> are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
>> alphabet vs alphabet?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>on the font. With handwriting, there is more possibility for confusion -
>have you seen the capital Q, that some people write rather like a 2?

The Guardian still makes both the 0/O and 1/l errors quite frequently.
I got my brother's post code from my parents before Christmas and the
post office said it didn't exist. Somewhere along the line, a parent
had misread an R as a Q.
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R H Draney - 06 Jan 2007 17:25 GMT
howa filted:

>are there exist a list of Easily confused  numbers vs alphabet or
>alphabet vs alphabet?
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>
>?

This table may be useful:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet#Common_transliterations

....r

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he makes his move", said the Inspector, obliquely.

howa - 07 Jan 2007 04:43 GMT
R H Draney 寫道:

> howa filted:
> >
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> "Keep your eye on the Bishop.  I want to know when
>  he makes his move", said the Inspector, obliquely.

that's what i want

thanks!!!
Mike Barnes - 07 Jan 2007 11:15 GMT
In alt.usage.english, R H Draney wrote:
>This table may be useful:
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet#Common_transliterations

Fascinating reading.

1 ]|_|57 |_34|2/\/3|) \/\/|-|47 1337 /\/\34/\/5.

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Cheshire, England

Roland Hutchinson - 07 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
> In alt.usage.english, R H Draney wrote:
>>This table may be useful:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> 1 ]|_|57 |_34|2/\/3|) \/\/|-|47 1337 /\/\34/\/5.

As if the English were't alread sufficiently given to irony, now this!

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