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T - 05 Jan 2007 03:42 GMT
I've been looking at nouns and their characteristics--singular/plural,
count/non-count and concrete/absolute. I thought that absolutes
couldn't be counted, but a friend of mine pointed out that we can
say/write "He had several loves in his youth." Justice, honesty, faith,
etc. can't be counted. Is "loves" non-standard English?
R J Valentine - 05 Jan 2007 04:14 GMT
} I've been looking at nouns and their characteristics--singular/plural,
} count/non-count and concrete/absolute. I thought that absolutes
} couldn't be counted, but a friend of mine pointed out that we can
} say/write "He had several loves in his youth." Justice, honesty, faith,
} etc. can't be counted. Is "loves" non-standard English?

Nope.  Nor is "justices" (on the Supreme court) or "honesties" (of
different schools of accounting) or "faiths" (of churchgoers), autc.

You just have to stretch a little.

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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 05 Jan 2007 04:32 GMT
> I've been looking at nouns and their characteristics--singular/plural,
> count/non-count and concrete/absolute. I thought that absolutes
> couldn't be counted, but a friend of mine pointed out that we can
> say/write "He had several loves in his youth." Justice, honesty, faith,
> etc. can't be counted. Is "loves" non-standard English?

I don't think so.  A great many nouns have different meanings and,
depending on the meaning, can function as either count nouns or mass
nouns.  "Love" is an example: a mass noun as an emotion, a count noun
as a beloved person or a kind of love (e.g., C. S. Lewis's title /The
Four Loves/).

Two of your examples have alternate meanings with the same property:
"the nine justices of the supreme court" and "people of many faiths".
I can't think of a use for "honesties", though--not even *"There were
several honesties next to the love-lies-bleedings."

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T - 05 Jan 2007 15:21 GMT
Thanks so much for a great repy to my question. I'll be able easily to
explain the difference.
T
> > I've been looking at nouns and their characteristics--singular/plural,
> > count/non-count and concrete/absolute. I thought that absolutes
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> I can't think of a use for "honesties", though--not even *"There were
> several honesties next to the love-lies-bleedings."
Amethyst Deceiver - 05 Jan 2007 15:15 GMT
>I've been looking at nouns and their characteristics--singular/plural,
>count/non-count and concrete/absolute. I thought that absolutes
>couldn't be counted, but a friend of mine pointed out that we can
>say/write "He had several loves in his youth." Justice, honesty, faith,
>etc. can't be counted. Is "loves" non-standard English?

No, it's standard English. It means people or things you love.
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Linz
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Frank ess - 06 Jan 2007 03:37 GMT
>> I've been looking at nouns and their
>> characteristics--singular/plural, count/non-count and
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>
> No, it's standard English. It means people or things you love.

I think "loves" in the tammyiprice sense is shorthand for "episodes
during which the subject expressed and/or felt poignant love";
alternatively, the object of those episodes.

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Frank ess

Skitt - 06 Jan 2007 18:52 GMT

>>> I've been looking at nouns and their
>>> characteristics--singular/plural, count/non-count and
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> during which the subject expressed and/or felt poignant love";
> alternatively, the object of those episodes.

What now, my love ...
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Skitt
Jes' fine

 
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