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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2007Washing up!
Any good techniques for washing up? So you don't get asked to do it again. irwell filted: >Any good techniques for washing up? > >So you don't get asked to do it again. Break something, and you're off the hook for life....r  Signature"Keep your eye on the Bishop. I want to know when he makes his move", said the Inspector, obliquely. > irwell filted: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "Keep your eye on the Bishop. I want to know when > he makes his move", said the Inspector, obliquely. Leave traces of pasta and sauce stuck to bowls in the dish rack. Fran In alt.usage.english, TOF wrote: >> irwell filted: >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Leave traces of pasta and sauce stuck to bowls in the dish rack. Here, that would simply invite the "more practice needed" response. SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England > In alt.usage.english, TOF wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Here, that would simply invite the "more practice needed" response. As it should, but in my case, it was unintentional. Like many people, I started becoming longsighted in my middle forties, and again like many, my first response was denial. Few really want to believe middle age has hit them. When hubby started noticing the declining standard of the washing up we were forced to improve the light at the sink and I had to get reading glasses. Even then though, reading glasses and washing up aren't the best mix, as the glasses tend to steam up, and on one or two occasions they've actually fallen into the dishwater. TOF > glasses. Even then though, reading glasses and washing up aren't the > best mix, as the glasses tend to steam up, and on one or two occasions > they've actually fallen into the dishwater. Hang on. I thought you were the dishwasher. Hope you didn't swallow them. SignatureRob Bannister > > glasses. Even then though, reading glasses and washing up aren't the > > best mix, as the glasses tend to steam up, and on one or two occasions > > they've actually fallen into the dishwater. > > Hang on. I thought you were the dishwasher. Hope you didn't swallow them. Is that a curious way of telling me that your eyes are past the best for close work? TOF > > irwell filted: > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Leave traces of pasta and sauce stuck to bowls in the dish rack. Wash the omelette pan with hot water and plenty of soap. SignatureSML que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com had it: > > > irwell filted: > > > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Wash the omelette pan with hot water and plenty of soap. ... using a Brillo pad. SignatureDavid ===== >>irwell filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Leave traces of pasta and sauce stuck to bowls in the dish rack. The dishes would simply be returned to the washer-upperer round here. In fact, when the drier-upperer is feeling bored he/she does that anyway just to see if the washer is awake. SignatureRob Bannister >Any good techniques for washing up? *Pedazo de invento el lavavajillas* (with apologies to the Fesser brothers). SignatureArchie Valparaiso > Any good techniques for washing up? > > So you don't get asked to do it again. Cast your Spode upon the waters. It will be washed up eventually, and so will you. > Any good techniques for washing up? ObAUE: BrE "washing up" = AmE "washing dishes" AmE "washing up" = BrE "washing" (i.e. washing one's face & hands) True? Not true? Mike M mikmooney@googlemail.com had it: > > Any good techniques for washing up? Dishwasher. > ObAUE: > > BrE "washing up" = AmE "washing dishes" > AmE "washing up" = BrE "washing" (i.e. washing one's face & hands) > > True? Not true? True, true. I once remarked to the lady of a house I was staying in (in Hong Kong, but they spoke US English) that the servants would not allow me to "wash up". I had done some cooking (which confused them in any case) but they drew the line at allowing me to clean up after myself. The remark was taken as saying that I was being prevented from washing my hands and face. SignatureDavid ===== > mikmooney@googlemail.com had it: > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The remark was taken as saying that I was being prevented from > washing my hands and face. And teeth. I would say "brush one's teeth", or "clean one's teeth", but never "wash one's teeth". I have a feeling the "wash" usage is OK in AmE. Mike M >And teeth. I would say "brush one's teeth", or "clean one's teeth", but >never "wash one's teeth". I have a feeling the "wash" usage is OK in >AmE. Is your feeling that an American might say "I have to wash my teeth?" If so, your feeling is wrong. We brush them or we clean them, but mostly we brush them. We have our teeth cleaned at the dentist's. Some Americans soak their teeth, but not in situ. SignatureTony Cooper Orlando, FL > >And teeth. I would say "brush one's teeth", or "clean one's teeth", but > >never "wash one's teeth". I have a feeling the "wash" usage is OK in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If so, your feeling is wrong. We brush them or we clean them, but > mostly we brush them. We have our teeth cleaned at the dentist's. Oh, OK. I'm pretty sure I've heard the usage "Have you washed your teeth?" somewhere. I was guessing it was in an American film, but maybe not. Mike M In alt.usage.english, Mike M wrote: >> >And teeth. I would say "brush one's teeth", or "clean one's teeth", but >> >never "wash one's teeth". I have a feeling the "wash" usage is OK in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >teeth?" somewhere. I was guessing it was in an American film, but maybe >not. SWMBO says that and she's from Leeds. SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England >In alt.usage.english, Mike M wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >SWMBO says that and she's from Leeds. So does mine say that. I don't know where it comes from in her case: she grew up with kitchen Arabic (eeh bah gum arabica?) and Italian in the maternal line, as well as English with Wallasey connections. Maybe laving oneself the dents is a Romance language habit? SignaturePaul In bocca al Lupo! >And teeth. I would say "brush one's teeth", or "clean one's teeth", but >never "wash one's teeth". I have a feeling the "wash" usage is OK in >AmE. I've only heard it from the Irish. Katy > > mikmooney@googlemail.com had it: > > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Mike M In the (bilingual) household I grew up in, the verb *pulire* (pulite i denti!) was used to give the instruction. This is a bit like the English "polish" -- which I always found a touch amusing. TOF >> Mike M > >In the (bilingual) household I grew up in, the verb *pulire* (pulite i >denti!) was used to give the instruction. This is a bit like the >English "polish" -- which I always found a touch amusing. The same in Dutch - one polishes ones teeth. (Tanden poetsen) Jitze >>> Mike M >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The same in Dutch - one polishes ones teeth. (Tanden poetsen) Doesn't "poetsen" just mean "to clean"? SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >>>> Mike M >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Doesn't "poetsen" just mean "to clean"? Nope - definitely to polish or burnish according to my dictionary. Cleaning would be something like ontvlekken, louteren, reinigen, schoonmaken, vegen, or zuiveren according to the same source. Jitze >>>>> Mike M >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cleaning would be something like ontvlekken, louteren, reinigen, > schoonmaken, vegen, or zuiveren according to the same source. Not also just "wipe clean" or something like that? Van Dale (www.vandale.nl) defines it as: poet·sen (ov.ww., ook abs.) 1 door wrijven schoonmaken of glanzend maken 2 (een dier) reinigen van huidparasieten Sense (1) includes English "polish" within its semantic scope, but (it seems to me) includes things that we wouldn't use "polish" for. But I honestly don't know; my Dutch is dodgy at best (and subject to interference from my stronger command of German). SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >>> The same in Dutch - one polishes ones teeth. (Tanden poetsen) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Cleaning would be something like ontvlekken, louteren, reinigen, > schoonmaken, vegen, or zuiveren according to the same source. Ah, so is it true that the Dutch have a hundred different words for cleaning? (Part of a stereotype I must have gleaned from primary school geography or somewhere, that Dutch houses were always meticulously clean. I wonder what that implies about the rest of us.) SignatureRegards John for mail: my initials plus a u e at tpg dot com dot au >> Any good techniques for washing up? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > True? Not true? I think your definitions are right. Not that I've ever been to the US, but I've seen plenty of US TV and US films in the UK. The first time I heard "wash up" to mean "wash one's face & hands" I understandably did a double-take, since here in Limeyland when we wash up we wash the dishes (and cutlery and everything else!) > ObAUE: > > BrE "washing up" = AmE "washing dishes" > AmE "washing up" = BrE "washing" (i.e. washing one's face & hands) > > True? Not true? True enough, but in my version of AmE, "to do the dishes" is even more common than "to wash the dishes." I think BrE has the same spirit with "to do the washing-up." Setting aside the question of how "to load the dishwasher" has affected the picture. SignatureBest -- Donna Richoux An American living in the Netherlands >> ObAUE: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Setting aside the question of how "to load the dishwasher" has > affected the picture. In my house, we appear to have setled on "taking care of the dishes" for loading the dishwasher and washing by hand those that need to be washed by hand. SignatureEvan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Now every hacker knows 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 | That the secret to survivin' Palo Alto, CA 94304 |Is knowin' when the time is free | And what's the load and queue kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com |'Cause everyone's a cruncher (650)857-7572 | And everyone's a user |And the best that you can hope for http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ | Is a crash when you're through Donna Richoux wrote, in <1hrogtv.fo0vix1y1eshmN%trio@euronet.nl> on Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:53:27 +0100: > > ObAUE: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Setting aside the question of how "to load the dishwasher" has affected > the picture. Loading the dishwasher is an art in itself. Nobody else can be trusted to do it right. SignatureNick Spalding In alt.usage.english, Nick Spalding wrote: >Loading the dishwasher is an art in itself. Nobody else can be trusted to >do it right. Agreed. SWMBO's method seems to be: 1. Select an object at random. 2. Place it in the centre of the largest available space. 3. Repeat until there isn't room for the next object. 4. Call in "someone" who knows how to do the job properly. SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England > Loading the dishwasher is an art in itself. Nobody else can be > trusted to do it right. And that's why I leave it to OldBloke. Although I do have to remind him now and again that while it's marvellous that he managed to fit everything in, packing it too tightly means some things have to be washed again... SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary >> ObAUE: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Setting aside the question of how "to load the dishwasher" has affected > the picture. I fancy it ought to be called "the washing-up engine" in BrE. (Please don't disillusion me.) SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >Any good techniques for washing up? > >So you don't get asked to do it again. Don't put the detergent in after the sink has filled with water, put it in at the beginning so you get mountains of suds. Then don't rinse anything. You could also try using shampoo instead of more appropriate liquid. Leaves a lovely scent on the crockery. SignatureRichard Bollard Canberra Australia To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT. >> Any good techniques for washing up? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it in at the beginning so you get mountains of suds. Then don't rinse > anything. Detergent first, then water, is how I was taught to do the washing up. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary > > Don't put the detergent in after the sink has filled with water, put > > it in at the beginning so you get mountains of suds. Then don't rinse > > anything. > > Detergent first, then water, is how I was taught to do the washing up. Depends-- if I were using a powder (do they still make powdered dish soap?), I might but as it is, I do them at the same time-- more or less. Start the water going, and immediately thereafter add soap to ensure maximum sudsage. -=Eric >> > Don't put the detergent in after the sink has filled with water, put >> > it in at the beginning so you get mountains of suds. Then don't rinse [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >less. Start the water going, and immediately thereafter add soap to >ensure maximum sudsage. Eschew maximum sudsage! (And keep your bananas in the fridge.) SignatureRichard Bollard Canberra Australia (Radical) >>> Any good techniques for washing up? >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Detergent first, then water, is how I was taught to do the washing up. So was I. Then a cunning friend showed me that it works better with less (ObAue: fewer?) suds. They don't add anything to the washing, the detergent does its job when mixed with the water. SignatureRichard Bollard Canberra Australia To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT. >Any good techniques for washing up? > >So you don't get asked to do it again. Put washing up liquid into the dishwasher and fill the kitchen with bubbles. SignatureRobin Herts, England |
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