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palomer - 08 Jan 2007 18:44 GMT Hello usage.english, I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known they derive from does this exist? Thanks! --Jacques
Don Phillipson - 08 Jan 2007 18:52 GMT > Hello usage.english, > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the > english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, > adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known > they derive from > does this exist? The most complete would be the current Oxford English Dictionary: but its contents are probably not compiled in a single file. The OED can be consulted on line but this requires a fee.
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Hatunen - 08 Jan 2007 19:12 GMT >> Hello usage.english, >> I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >not compiled in a single file. The OED can be >consulted on line but this requires a fee. You can also buy it on discs, I believe.
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Don Phillipson - 08 Jan 2007 19:54 GMT > >> Hello usage.english, > >> I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the > >> english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, > >> adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known > >> they derive from > >> does this exist?
> >The most complete would be the current Oxford > >English Dictionary: but its contents are probably > >not compiled in a single file. The OED can be > >consulted on line but this requires a fee.
> You can also buy it on discs, I believe. The OP asked for maximum completeness. Obviously the OED on CDs cannot be updated; but these days I would expect that the on-line version of the OED is updated continuously as corrections and additions are made.
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Mark Brader - 09 Jan 2007 11:50 GMT Don Phillipson:
> but these days I would expect that the on-line > version of the OED is updated continuously as > corrections and additions are made. Actually, I believe they are still following their old schedule of the printed-fascicles days and publishing a batch of new material every three months. It's just that this may now include changes to existing entries as well as new ones.
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John Dean - 09 Jan 2007 00:52 GMT >> Hello usage.english, >> I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > not compiled in a single file. The OED can be > consulted on line but this requires a fee. Unless, for example, you are a member of an organisation which provides OED access free or you are a member of a library which does that (as do most, if not all, the libraries in the UK)
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Garrett Wollman - 08 Jan 2007 20:02 GMT >I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the >english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, >adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known >they derive from What you ask is probably impossible. You probably want to start from a base of something like WordNet <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordNet>, which does not contain "every word in the [E]nglish language" (no such list exists), but even there, plural forms are tricky. You may also want to look at the approaches taken by spelling checkers like ispell and aspell; generally, these systems include rules for generating plurals and some way of indicating which words or word fragments use which rule(s). They can also handle other sorts of affixes, like "un-" and "-ly", and in the course of internationalization have learned to handle more complex transformations like umlaut/ablaut.
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Mike M - 09 Jan 2007 12:24 GMT > Hello usage.english, > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the > english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, > adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known > they derive from > does this exist? I think this group should be able to help.
I'll start us off:
Aardvark (pl. aardvarks), n.
Mike M
Robert Lieblich - 09 Jan 2007 12:30 GMT > > Hello usage.english, > > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Aardvark (pl. aardvarks), n. Let's nip this in the bud:
Zygote.
Peter Duncanson - 09 Jan 2007 15:17 GMT >> > Hello usage.english, >> > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Zygote. zymurgy
and <drum roll, fanfare, spotlight ON>:
Zyzzyx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx
Zyzzyx is a monospecific genus of sand wasp, containing a brightly-colored, medium-sized species, Z. chilensis, named after the sound they make while flying.
[Respect is due to OneLook.com and its wildcard search facility.]
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Oleg Lego - 10 Jan 2007 05:20 GMT The Peter Duncanson entity posted thusly:
>>> > Hello usage.english, >>> > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >[Respect is due to OneLook.com and its wildcard search facility.] We didn't do "Aa".
Peter Duncanson - 10 Jan 2007 11:25 GMT >The Peter Duncanson entity posted thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >We didn't do "Aa". All together now: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Oleg Lego - 11 Jan 2007 05:37 GMT The Peter Duncanson entity posted thusly:
>>The Peter Duncanson entity posted thusly: >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >All together now: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Oh no! An eruption!
John J. Chew III - 11 Jan 2007 06:39 GMT >>> > Hello usage.english, >>> > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > brightly-colored, medium-sized species, Z. chilensis, named > after the sound they make while flying. Are you all asleep at the wheel?
http://www.scrabble-assoc.com/boards/dictionary/ospd4-23.html
ZZZ interj used to suggest the sound of snoring
John
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Peter Duncanson - 11 Jan 2007 17:07 GMT >>>> > Hello usage.english, >>>> > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > ZZZ interj used to suggest the sound of snoring Grr. I ... do ... not ... play ... Scra ... bble.
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LFS - 11 Jan 2007 17:12 GMT >>>>>>Hello usage.english, >>>>>>I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Grr. I ... do ... not ... play ... Scra ... bble. Ah, but do you snore?
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Peter Duncanson - 11 Jan 2007 19:20 GMT >>>>>>>Hello usage.english, >>>>>>>I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Ah, but do you snore? Yes, according to my wife.
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John J. Chew III - 12 Jan 2007 02:14 GMT >>Are you all asleep at the wheel? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >Grr. I ... do ... not ... play ... Scra ... bble. Clearly. "Grr" is not acceptable in Scrabble, unlike proper words, such as "brr", "brrr", "aargh", "aarrgh", "aarrghh" and the aforementioned "zzz".
John
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geozec@googlemail.com - 11 Jan 2007 13:00 GMT TEST TEST
Sorry I'm new here and tried twice to post a thread but it didn't show up, so I'm testing if I can at least reply
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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:30:06 -0500, Robert Lieblich > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Peter Duncanson, UK > (in alt.usage.english)- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Skitt - 11 Jan 2007 19:17 GMT > TEST TEST > > Sorry I'm new here and tried twice to post a thread but it didn't show > up, so I'm testing if I can at least reply > > TEST TEST Your two previous posting attempts showed up just fine.
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kevin.google@atkinson.dhs.org - 11 Jan 2007 00:58 GMT > Hello usage.english, > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the > english language, as well as their grammatical type (noun, adjective, > adverb, verb, etc..) and, if its a plural known, the original known > they derive from > does this exist? You might want to look at AGID at http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/. AGID is "an Automatically Generated Inflection Database from an insanely large word list".
You might find the part of speech database usefull to available at the same site.
palomer - 17 Jan 2007 21:50 GMT AGID is almost exactly what I'm looking for it has plurals and conjugations and states the grammatical function of each word thanks!
However, AGID assigns many grammatical functions to the same word; some of which may be unpopular for example, it considers "walking" to be a noun and the past participle of "walk" it thinks "up" is both a verb and a noun etc... both of which may be correct (it may be used as a verb); but I'm only interested in popular usage would anyone happen to know of a similar word list that only assigns the most common grammatical functions to words it doesn't have to be comprehensive, if it only contains popular words that's fine Having several grammatical functions for words like "left" or "saw" is fine! thanks in advance to anyone who can help
> > Hello usage.english, > > I'm looking for a computer file which contains every word in the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You might find the part of speech database usefull to available at the > same site. Don Phillipson - 17 Jan 2007 22:27 GMT > . . . AGID assigns many grammatical functions to the same word; > some of which may be unpopular [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > both of which may be correct (it may be used as a verb); but I'm only > interested in popular usage This is because words occur in real use only in sentences, and sentence structure usually tells us (via parsing) what part of speech a particular word may be. Only in James Joyce does anyone say "up" and no more. We say things like "I am going up to bed" or "It is time to up my pay," which are not ambiguous (as dictionary definitions and word lists may seem to be.) We cannot expect to find a list that explains differences that in popular usage are indicated by the context of a full sentence.
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kevin.google@atkinson.dhs.org - 17 Jan 2007 22:55 GMT > would anyone happen to know of a similar word list that only assigns > the most common grammatical functions to words > it doesn't have to be comprehensive, if it only contains popular words > that's fine See 2of12id in the "Unofficial Alternate 12 Dicts Package" at the same site (http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/). Have a look at readme-info (http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/alt12dicts-infl-readme) for a description of what it is.
palomer - 18 Jan 2007 05:54 GMT thanks again! I tried that one too, but it also has some unpopular grammatical function assignments like up is a verb, adjective and noun house is an adjective, verb and noun etc... I wouldn't mind generating a popular list myself if someone had a list of popular nouns, popular adverbs, popular adjectives and popular verbs then I could use the inflection dictionary to get the inflections (and not extract the grammatical functions, which are sometimes unpopular)
again, thanks for all the help!!!
> > would anyone happen to know of a similar word list that only assigns > > the most common grammatical functions to words [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/alt12dicts-infl-readme) for a > description of what it is. Martin Ambuhl - 18 Jan 2007 06:22 GMT > thanks again! > I tried that one too, but it also has some unpopular grammatical > function assignments > like > up is a verb, adjective and noun 'up' is also an adverb and preposition. There is nothing 'unpopular' about its being properly labeled a verb, adjective, and noun as well.
> house is an adjective, verb and noun There is nothing 'unpopular' about using 'house' as an adjective, verb, or noun. These are all common.
It appears that you have no understanding of English words and their uses. It is time for you to stop, find a teacher, and learn some English before criticizing what you are, as yet, too ignorant to understand.
palomer - 18 Jan 2007 21:05 GMT Given the condescending tone and aggressive manner in which this message was written, I really shouldn't be replying to it However, it gives me a chance to clarify what exactly I'm looking for using house as an adjective isn't nearly as popular as using it as a noun or verb in fact, it isn't listed as an adjective in webster.com by popular, I mean "much more frequent than all the others" so house used as a noun or a verb is much more popular than using it as an adjective I would say that noun and verb are both popular grammatical function assignments, while adjective isn't (though it may be used as an adjective sometimes) If no such list exists, that's cool
Martin Ambuhl wrote (some nonsense):
> > thanks again! > > I tried that one too, but it also has some unpopular grammatical [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > uses. It is time for you to stop, find a teacher, and learn some > English before criticizing what you are, as yet, too ignorant to understand. Martin Ambuhl - 18 Jan 2007 21:20 GMT > Given the condescending tone and aggressive manner in which this > message was written, I really shouldn't be replying to it There is nothing condescending or aggressive about pointing out that your labeling common uses as "unpopular" is wrong and suggests that you don't know much English. The solution is for you to find a teacher. That you consider this condescending and aggressive shows even more that you need some instruction.
> However, it gives me a chance to clarify what exactly I'm looking for > using house as an adjective isn't nearly as popular as using it as a > noun or verb 'House' occurs frequently as an adjective. You are simply in error, and there is no reason for anyone to agree to your error at the risk of being labeled condescending and aggressive. Your ignorance does not make you an expert, even if your egoism makes you think so.
> in fact, it isn't listed as an adjective in webster.com You don't know how to read a dictionary. Look at that entry: Main Entry: 1house Pronunciation: 'haus Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural hous·es /'hau-z&z also -s&z/ Usage: often attributive ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
'often attributive' means that is if frequently, even 'popularly', used as an adjective. Get off your high horse and learn something. You know neither English nor how to read a dictionary. You label people who quietly point out your errors as condescending and aggressive. You haven't made my killfile yet, but if you keep this crap up you soon will.
> by popular, I mean "much more frequent than all the others" And that will be in the running for a prize as one of the stupider definitions ever seen.
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> Martin Ambuhl wrote (some nonsense): Had you read it, you would find that it was not nonsense, but a reply to badly informed nonsense on your part. That killfile seems closer now.
R J Valentine - 19 Jan 2007 04:18 GMT } palomer wrote: }> Given the condescending tone and aggressive manner in which this }> message was written, I really shouldn't be replying to it } } There is nothing condescending or aggressive about pointing out that } your labeling common uses as "unpopular" is wrong and suggests that you } don't know much English. The solution is for you to find a teacher. } That you consider this condescending and aggressive shows even more that } you need some instruction. ...
Oh, come on, it's a _little_ condescending (NTTAWWC). Not very aggressive, though. Say something about Bavarians and aggressive will show up, dead or alive.
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Mike Lyle - 18 Jan 2007 22:28 GMT > Given the condescending tone and aggressive manner in which this > message was written, I really shouldn't be replying to it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in fact, it isn't listed as an adjective in webster.com > by popular, I mean "much more frequent than all the others" [...]
That isn't how "popular" is used, though: you've shown that you know how to use "frequent", and that's the word you want. You could also have used "common".
To over-simplify, "popular" generally implies that whatever-it-is is _liked_ or _chosen_ by many people. It would be applied to vocabulary-choice only in special cases. You may have seen it applied to children's names, as in "The most popular name of 2006 was. . ."; that could be seen as one of the special cases, though of course names aren't ordinary words.
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kevin.google@atkinson.dhs.org - 19 Jan 2007 22:06 GMT > thanks again! > I tried that one too, but it also has some unpopular grammatical [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to get the inflections (and not extract the grammatical functions, > which are sometimes unpopular) You don't mean popular, you mean common.
Unfortunately that is the best thing I have. If you have the skill you can rerun AGID scripts on a smaller word list. However, I do not have the time to help you with this.
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