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Primitive and Primate

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cicada - 09 Jan 2007 04:53 GMT
Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.
Steve Hayes - 09 Jan 2007 06:34 GMT
>Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
>of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.

Tes, they are used entirely differently.

"Primate" as a zoological term refers to a class of mammals that includes men
and monkeys.

It is also an ecclesiological term, and the two senses can be mixed, as in the
saying "mandrills and bishops have purple in common". And, of course, both are
primates in the zoological sense.

Primitive means the earliest form of something. It is a much vaguer term, and
often is based on cultural assumptions of the speaker. But very old cave
paintings in various parts of the world can rightly be called "primitive art"
because they are the oldest form of human graphic art we know of.

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John Dean - 09 Jan 2007 15:08 GMT
> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
> of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.

We're related closely to champs but we're also related to oranges and
grillers.
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Paul Wolff - 09 Jan 2007 22:50 GMT
>> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
>> of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.
>
>We're related closely to champs but we're also related to oranges and
>grillers.

But not to broilers.
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Jeffrey Turner - 10 Jan 2007 15:45 GMT
>>> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>>> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
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>
> But not to broilers.

That's not to say there aren't people who are chickens.

--Jeff

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CDB - 10 Jan 2007 15:58 GMT
>>>> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>>>> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
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>
> That's not to say there aren't people who are chickens.

I had a cousin who was a friar.
John Dean - 11 Jan 2007 00:58 GMT
>>>>> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>>>>> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
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> I had a cousin who was a friar.

And an uncle who was a capuchin ... and we're back on the monkey thread.
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CDB - 11 Jan 2007 15:05 GMT
>>>>>> Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>>>>>> when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different
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> And an uncle who was a capuchin ... and we're back on the monkey
> thread.

They went through the eye of the needle long ago.
Robert Bannister - 10 Jan 2007 00:26 GMT
>>Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
>>when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
>>of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.
>
> We're related closely to champs but we're also related to oranges and
> grillers.

I thought "orange" meant "people", as in "orange you tang" (people who
smell of oranges). "Griller" is more obvious: King Kong was hot stuff.
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Mike Lyle - 11 Jan 2007 22:36 GMT
> > Primitive and primate.  How are the two words used differently
> > when referring to our 'ancestors'?  Are they two different kinds
> > of animal at the time?  like a comparison of monkey and champs.
>
> We're related closely to champs but we're also related to oranges and
> grillers.

I am, though less closely, related to a number of chumps. Until the DNA
test comes in, I can't be sure, but I think they're nearer to the
orange side than the griller branch.

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