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Tony Cooper - 09 Jan 2007 05:19 GMT
Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
Ohio State team, and said that one of Troy's mentors when he was
growing up was "his Midget football coach".

"Midget football" is a program for kids nine and ten years old.  The
coaches are usually of average height.

Incidently...University of Florida - blow-out winner of the game - was
generally thought of as the underdog in this contest.  "Underdog"
seems to have been in use since at least 1887.  

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Mike M - 09 Jan 2007 11:41 GMT
> Incidently...University of Florida - blow-out winner of the game - was
> generally thought of as the underdog in this contest.  "Underdog"
> seems to have been in use since at least 1887.

One of my favourite song titles (it's by The Sutherland Brothers and
Quiver, from about 1974):

"Champion The Underdog"

Mike M
Gerry - 09 Jan 2007 14:51 GMT
> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
> Ohio State team, and said that one of Troy's mentors when he was
> growing up was "his Midget football coach".

How could you tell whether he said
 "his Midget football coach"
or
 "his Midget-football coach"?

Gerry
Tony Cooper - 09 Jan 2007 16:21 GMT
>> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
>> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>or
>  "his Midget-football coach"?

What I couldn't hear was the capitalization of "midget".  I see no
reason for "Midget football" to ever be hyphenated.  
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Amethyst Deceiver - 10 Jan 2007 12:58 GMT
>>> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
>>> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What I couldn't hear was the capitalization of "midget".  I see no
> reason for "Midget football" to ever be hyphenated.

A football coach who is a midget would be a "midget football coach". A
coach of midget footbal would be a "midget-football coach". In my
English, anyway.

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Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford
My accent may vary

Tony Cooper - 10 Jan 2007 13:48 GMT
>>>> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
>>>> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>coach of midget footbal would be a "midget-football coach". In my
>English, anyway.

Midget football is a level of league play; a part of the program of
youth football.   It's usually said "Midget League football" to avoid
the problem in this thread.  The program is divided into groups by the
age of the players.

I don't see instances of FA-football coach, Premier-football coach, or
Peewee-football coach.  So why should anyone write "Midget-football
coach"?

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the Omrud - 09 Jan 2007 14:55 GMT
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net had it:
> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> "Midget football" is a program for kids nine and ten years old.  The
> coaches are usually of average height.

Oh dear.  You took me to Dwarf Tossing, and now I am suffering from
the following paragraph:

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the Omrud - 09 Jan 2007 14:58 GMT
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net had it:
> Interesting line from one of the announcers on the BCS football game
> on TV tonight.  He was talking about Troy Smith, quarterback for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> generally thought of as the underdog in this contest.  "Underdog"
> seems to have been in use since at least 1887.

Sorry for the suspense.  I am temporarily out of control of my
extremities.

Oh dear.  You took me off to consider Dwarf Throwing, and now I am
suffering from the following paragraph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_tossing:
One special form of dwarf tossing is midget tossing. This is a
speciality toss that only the strongest and most talented tossers
should participate in. The tosser holds the dwarf by the ankles and
spins around at least 3 times before releasing the dwarf. It can be
incredibly dangerous and, at times, has caused head trauma to both
the dwarf and the tosser.

Perhaps you have to be a native BrE speaker.

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