"She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
What did he do? Is this AmE?
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Tony Cooper - 13 Jan 2007 13:36 GMT
>"She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>
>What did he do? Is this AmE?
A very common phrase in the US. Detailing a car is washing, waxing,
vacuuming, and generally spiffing up a vehicle. There are many people
who make a living as "detailers".
http://www.mobiledetailers.net/

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Richard Bollard - 17 Jan 2007 04:33 GMT
>>"She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>>
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>vacuuming, and generally spiffing up a vehicle. There are many people
>who make a living as "detailers".
Not to be confuesed with makers of manx.

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Peter Moylan - 13 Jan 2007 14:04 GMT
> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>
> What did he do? Is this AmE?
It might be, but it's also common in AusE. It means to fix up the little
details of a car, usually in preparation to selling it. This includes
things like cleaning the engine, putting in new wiper blades, replacing
any damaged trim, etc. It would be pointless to do this on a brand new
car, though, so perhaps there's a nuance in there that doesn't exist in
AusE.
A different meaning would apply if the object were a dog rather than a car.

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John J. Chew III - 13 Jan 2007 23:40 GMT
>> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
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>car, though, so perhaps there's a nuance in there that doesn't exist in
>AusE.
In Canadian (and American) usage, it means to thoroughly clean a car.
If I had my car detailed, I would be pleasantly surprised if they
went to the trouble of cleaning the engine; I would refuse to pay
if the replaced wiper blades or trim, which I would consider maintenance
rather than detailing. A sufficiently obsessive car owner might
want to have their car detailed immediately after they bought it,
to remove any grime that accumulated on their test drive, or to
remove the imagined odour or germs left behind by sales or
factory personnel.
John

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Nick Atty - 14 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT
>In Canadian (and American) usage, it means to thoroughly clean a car.
>If I had my car detailed, I would be pleasantly surprised if they
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>remove the imagined odour or germs left behind by sales or
>factory personnel.
I think I'd (UK) use "valet" for that (pronounced with a silent 't', but
without any particular other frenchification of it).

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Peter Duncanson - 13 Jan 2007 14:25 GMT
>"She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
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>What did he do? Is this AmE?
>
>TIA
See:
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1
861604117
or
http://tinyurl.com/yf39xo
detail. transitive verb
Definition:
3. decorate something: to add refinements or decorations to
something, especially a motor vehicle
It seems to be mainly AmE.
In BrE "detailing" seems to used differently.
For example:
http://www.fineautocare.com/Detailing-Programmes.html
Exterior Only Detail - (Approx 3 hours)
1. Paintwork Cleaning
* Hand washed using pH neutral car bath
* Wheels and alloys cleaned using non-acidic cleaners
* Paintwork dried by hand using soft drying towels
2. Paintwork Preparation
* Swissol paint rubber used to remove surface contaminants
such as tree sap, tar or paint over-spray
* Swissol Cleaner Fluid used to prepare the surface, fill
light swirl marks and remove old wax
3. Paint Protection
* Application of Swissol carnauba wax (Saphir/Best of Show)
4. Glass & Tyre Presentation
* Swissol Crystal Glass Cleaner applied to glass areas
* Tyres treated with Swissol Pneu
* Option: Wheels protected with Swissol Autobahn wheel wax
Interior only Detail - (Approx 4 hours)
5. Carpeting and Mats
* Vacuum of interior and boot areas
6. Leather and Upholstery Cleaning
* Leather cleaned with Swissol Leather Cleaner
* Leather fed with Swissol Leather Milk
7. Plastics, Seals & Dashboard
* Plastics, dash area, door and window seals cleaned
* Seals treated with Swissol Seal Feed
* Plastics protected using Swissol Vinyl & Plastic
Conditioner
* Wood finishes treated with Swissol Wood Polish
8. Windows & Mirrors
* Windows cleaned inside and out with Swissol Crystal
* Mirrors treated with Swissol Crystal
Here "detailing" means cleaning and treating various surfaces of the
car "with attention to detail". Normal cleaning and treating of a
car body or interior would be less thorough.

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Roland Hutchinson - 13 Jan 2007 19:29 GMT
>>"She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>>
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>>
> See:
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1
861604117
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/yf39xo
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> car "with attention to detail". Normal cleaning and treating of a
> car body or interior would be less thorough.
That's exactly what detailing is is AmE, too. I suppose this at least
arguably fits the dictionary definition you found, under the guise of
"refinements".

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Robert Bannister - 13 Jan 2007 22:55 GMT
> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>
> What did he do? Is this AmE?
I know what it means, although I can't find in a quick on-line search in
any British dictionary. However, I have a feeling that the verb was used
in some area like art restoration before the car industry got it.

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Frank ess - 14 Jan 2007 04:35 GMT
>> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>>
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> was used in some area like art restoration before the car industry
> got it.
In my military days I was frequently placed on a detail, and when
queried I could say, "I was detailed to water grass in the squadron
area during a five-inch-per-hour rainstorm". [1]
Bit of a stretch, but she might have instructed her car wrangler to
put her brand-new black Mercedes 560SL to its best use.
[1] Most often it was a KP (Kitchen Police) detail, but
water-in-the-rain was real.

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Jeffrey Turner - 14 Jan 2007 00:01 GMT
> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>
> What did he do? Is this AmE?
I suspect he painted a design on it. Maybe just lines around the trim,
maybe flames on the hood and fenders.
--Jeff

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Robert Lieblich - 14 Jan 2007 00:22 GMT
> > "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
> >
> > What did he do? Is this AmE?
>
> I suspect he painted a design on it. Maybe just lines around the trim,
> maybe flames on the hood and fenders.
I've also encountered "detail" in this use, although it's usually used
to mean clean thoroughly and fix minor flaws.

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Garrett Wollman - 14 Jan 2007 03:54 GMT
>> I suspect he painted a design on it. Maybe just lines around the trim,
>> maybe flames on the hood and fenders.
>
>I've also encountered "detail" in this use, although it's usually used
>to mean clean thoroughly and fix minor flaws.
When I first moved to Massachusetts, there was a big controversy over
"police details" that I could not make head or tail of. Why police
officers should be painting and affixing insignia to their own cars
was totally beyond me. It was a few years before I figured out that
they were referring to (ObXThread) the practice of off-duty police
officers standing around at road-construction jobs chatting with the
workers.
-GAWollman

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CDB - 14 Jan 2007 15:48 GMT
> "She had him detail her brand new black Mercedes 560 SL."
>
> What did he do?
He chopped off those outmoded fins. He took out her stalker with
extreme prejudice. He cleaned the car meticulously and anointed the
animal and vegetable parts with fine silicones.
Is this AmE?
Yes. The last is the most common.