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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2007mid 1800's London word for carousing
In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and people were carousing, what word might have been used for carousing in that timeframe and place. Mary > In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and people > were carousing, what word might have been used for carousing in that > timeframe and place. If you do not like the word carouse and your thesaurus includes no likely equivalents, have a look at the novels of Charles Dickens where a variety of late parties are described, some drunken too (cf. Nicholas Nickleby.)  SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) On 15 Jan 2007, Don Phillipson wrote >> In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and >> people were carousing, what word might have been used for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of Charles Dickens where a variety of late parties are > described, some drunken too (cf. Nicholas Nickleby.) I suspect "carousing" waa used -- old and established word -- but perhaps "roistering" as well? SignatureCheers, Harvey Canadian and British English, indiscriminately mixed For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van > On 15 Jan 2007, Don Phillipson wrote > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>of Charles Dickens where a variety of late parties are >>described, some drunken too (cf. Nicholas Nickleby.) > I suspect "carousing" waa used -- old and established word Indeed. It was used in "Hamlet". > -- but perhaps "roistering" as well? A definite possibility. Also dates back to (at least) the Tudor period. > > -- but perhaps "roistering" as well? > > A definite possibility. Also dates back to (at least) the Tudor period. Whether tudor or fordor, it's not a good idea to drive your car after drinking so. --Jeff SignatureThe shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same. --Stendhal > On 15 Jan 2007, Don Phillipson wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I suspect "carousing" waa used -- old and established word -- but > perhaps "roistering" as well? Depends on the behaviour: if not loutish, then "merrymaking" would fit too. SignatureRob Bannister In alt.usage.english, tombates@city-net.com wrote: >In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and people >were carousing, what word might have been used for carousing in that >timeframe and place. Parties were sometimes called routs. I don't know if partying was known as routing. SignatureV >In alt.usage.english, tombates@city-net.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Parties were sometimes called routs. I don't know if partying was known >as routing. SOED rout n. II. 5. A fashionable gathering or assembly, a large evening party or reception, much in vogue in the 18th and 19th centuries. 1742 This sounds somewhat more sedate than carousing and drunkenness. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) In alt.usage.english, Peter Duncanson wrote: >On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:43:05 +0000, Vinny Burgoo >>In alt.usage.english, tombates@city-net.com wrote: >>>In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and people >>>were carousing, what word might have been used for carousing in that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >This sounds somewhat more sedate than carousing and drunkenness. It does. The NSOED offers a "compotation", where "compotators" get "compotatory". I suppose a lot depends on the social class of the compotators and/or the precise nature of the compotation's conviviality. I have been trying to remember some terms used by Harry Flashman, V.C., but the only one I can offer is that he got "beastly drunk". SignatureV > In alt.usage.english, Peter Duncanson wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:43:05 +0000, Vinny Burgoo [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I have been trying to remember some terms used by Harry Flashman, > V.C., but the only one I can offer is that he got "beastly drunk". I love this thread! I am serious, you guys are great. I love the word carousing though, its great for, uh, church usage. ;-) >In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and people >were carousing, what word might have been used for carousing in that >timeframe and place. >Mary Getting pissed. >> In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and >> people were carousing, what word might have been used for >> carousing in that timeframe and place. > Getting pissed. "Nose-painting", if you want to get all Scottish about it. > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Huh? Uh, as someone who has never real "caroused" like that, nor hung out with "nose-painting" Scots, what does this mean? >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Huh? Uh, as someone who has never real "caroused" like that, nor > hung out with "nose-painting" Scots, what does this mean? "Getting pissed" means "getting drunk", and when that happens, one's nose becomes as red as it can; hence, "nose painting" -- from _Alice in Wonderland_: "We're painting our noses red..." No, wait. That was "painting the roses red". SignatureFranke: EFL teacher & medical editor Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan. "If you are still not convinced of the a.s-brain connection, finish this sentence: 'It is easier to think after I … (a) get a haircut (b) take a dump'." Scott Adams, The Dilbert Blog, 12 Jan 2007; http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/ teranews now charges a one-time US$3.95 setup fee -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>> In London, around mid 1800's, if there was a drunken party and >>>> people were carousing, what word might have been used for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> "Nose-painting", if you want to get all Scottish about it. > Huh? Uh, as someone who has never real "caroused" like that, nor > hung out with "nose-painting" Scots, what does this mean? According to M****th's porter in a certain play of Shakespeare's, drink leads to nose-painting. You could google it. Strictly speaking, I suppose the red nose is an effect of the carouse, but if someone said "Hoots, ah'm off tae the pub for a spot o' nose-painting," you might guess what he meant. > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Hoots? :-D What the bleep? [Nosepainting? Hoots!] > Hoots? :-D What the bleep? A Doric particle. 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