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The "Manhattan Effect"?

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Hairy Lethal - 20 Jan 2007 16:42 GMT
When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
superglue (BrE = cyanacrylic adhesive) under them so that they can run the
board through a molten-solder fountain to solder the components in place.

But if the solder is not at the correct temperature, or there has been
moisture from the manual assembler on the board, then the components can
sometimes be disturbed and lie in irregular positions. They stick up at
WeIrD angles and generally look untidy. This effect is known in the trade as
the "Manhattan Effect".

Is there some property or incident that leads Manhattan into some form of
eponymic relationship with the English language? I could understand the
"Berlin Effect", "Vietnam Effect", or even "Baghdad Effect". So what is so
special about Manhattan?

FYI, I have never been to Manhattan, but I presume the effect has something
to do with the landscape. To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
happened in Manhattan in history. The only incident I can find is the
updraft in tall buildings that resulted in the advent of the revolving door
by Theophilus Van Kannel, to prevent raging hurricanes in tall hotel
receptions (Aug 1888).
Garrett Wollman - 20 Jan 2007 17:05 GMT
>When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
>they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
>superglue (BrE = cyanacrylic adhesive) under them so that they can run the
>board through a molten-solder fountain to solder the components in place.

Super Glue(R) is a trademark.  The generic term in AmE is
cyanoacrylate [adhesive|glue].

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the Omrud - 20 Jan 2007 18:42 GMT
wollman@csail.mit.edu had it:

> >When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
> >they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
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> Super Glue(R) is a trademark.  The generic term in AmE is
> cyanoacrylate [adhesive|glue].

Whereas the BrE colloquial term for the stuff is "superglue".

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John Dean - 20 Jan 2007 19:09 GMT
> wollman@csail.mit.edu had it:
>
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>
> Whereas the BrE colloquial term for the stuff is "superglue".

And not, therefore, AFAIK, a trademark. Also in US law enforcement:
http://onin.com/fp/cyanoho.html

"Super Glue is a trademark name for one specific product, but the term
"superglue" or "super glue" is commonly used in law enforcement fingerprint
development work to mean any of a great number of cyanoacrylate products."
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Roland Hutchinson - 20 Jan 2007 19:10 GMT
> wollman@csail.mit.edu had it:
>
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>
> Whereas the BrE colloquial term for the stuff is "superglue".

AmE has both "crazy glue" and "superglue" -- both genericized trademarks, as
well as the echt-generic "cyanoacrylate".

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Hatunen - 20 Jan 2007 22:23 GMT
>wollman@csail.mit.edu had it:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Whereas the BrE colloquial term for the stuff is "superglue".

As it is in the USA.

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mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 21 Jan 2007 14:40 GMT
> >Whereas the BrE colloquial term for the stuff is "superglue".
>
> As it is in the USA.

>From a page headed "Cyanoacrylate (Superglue) Fuming Tips " for law
enforcement workers:-

    "Super Glue is a trademark name for one specific product, but the
term "superglue" or "super glue" is commonly used in law enforcement
fingerprint development work to mean any of a great number of
cyanoacrylate products."

I don't know very much about trademark law - If "Super Glue", capital S
capital G is a trademark name, what is the status of variants like
Superglue, superglue, SuperGlue, etc? (How I hate embedded capitals).

Aha! I just found a page of advice about protecting trademarks which
says:

      "Don't let your mark become generic. A trademark can become
generic when it becomes recognized by the public as the common name for
a product, rather than an indication of the source of the product. For
example, Shredded Wheat, Thermos and Super Glue are all former
trademarks. Notify anyone using your mark in a generic sense to cease
and desist. "

Another says

      "Super Glue, after a costly court battle, was deemed generic
when used on a strong, rapid setting glue and not entitled to trademark
protection."

Thus these:-

'Super-Glue'' is a trademark of Chemence, Ltd

Duro? Superglue is a trademark of Loctite Corporation

Once you use Permabond Super Glue, you'll never buy another super glue.

Handibond - Manufacturer of cyanoacrylate adhesives and super glue
accelerators
Robert Bannister - 21 Jan 2007 23:09 GMT
> Once you use Permabond Super Glue, you'll never buy another super glue.

The strangest property of superglue is that once you have used it, the
tube (or tubes, when they come in pairs) disappear, so I always have to
buy a new one. I have discovered that the brand has no effect on on its
disappearing abilities.

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Peter Moylan - 22 Jan 2007 00:29 GMT
>> Once you use Permabond Super Glue, you'll never buy another super
>> glue.
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> have to buy a new one. I have discovered that the brand has no effect
>  on on its disappearing abilities.

Mine don't disappear, but the remaining glue hardens so that I have to
throw out the entire tube. The solution, I've found, is to buy the
smallest tubes in packs of 10 from one of those "Extra Less Prices"
places, and don't count on using any tube more than once.

You might get a longer life if you put the lid back on before the long
and tedious process of trying to remove the tube from your fingers and
your fingers from one another.

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Hatunen - 22 Jan 2007 21:25 GMT
>>> Once you use Permabond Super Glue, you'll never buy another super
>>> glue.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>and tedious process of trying to remove the tube from your fingers and
>your fingers from one another.

What they don't tell you on the package, but quoting from
Wikipedia:

"Generally, cyanoacrylate is an acrylic resin which rapidly
polymerises in the presence of water (specifically hydroxide
ions), forming long, strong chains, joining the bonded surfaces
together. Because the presence of moisture causes the glue to
set, exposure to moisture in the air can cause a tube or bottle
of glue to become unusable over time. To prevent an opened
container of glue from setting before use, it must be stored in
an airtight jar or bottle with a package of silica gel."

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Robert Bannister - 20 Jan 2007 23:07 GMT
>>When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
>>they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Super Glue(R) is a trademark.  The generic term in AmE is
> cyanoacrylate [adhesive|glue].

My mind is now filled with visions of American kids screaming out
"Johnny put cyanoacrylate on my chair". Somehow, I find this slightly
unbelievable.
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Hatunen - 20 Jan 2007 23:40 GMT
>>>When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
>>>they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>"Johnny put cyanoacrylate on my chair". Somehow, I find this slightly
>unbelievable.

"Generic" is not a synonym for "popular" or "colloquial".

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Don Phillipson - 20 Jan 2007 17:34 GMT
> When you assemble a printed circuit board . . .  the components can
> sometimes be disturbed and lie in irregular positions. They stick up at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> to do with the landscape. To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
> happened in Manhattan in history.

The Manhattan skyline has been famous for 100
years (and 100 years ago it was unique among the
cities of the world.)  It is seen from the sea as an
aggregation of different-looking towers in an unplanned
or haphazard arrangement.  This may be the source
of your phrase.

Destruction of the World Trade Centre (9/11) is the
most catastrophic event in Manhattan's history (unless
you count various diseases, e.g. cholera or influenza.)

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Sara Lorimer - 20 Jan 2007 21:22 GMT
> Destruction of the World Trade Centre (9/11) is the
> most catastrophic event in Manhattan's history (unless
> you count various diseases, e.g. cholera or influenza.)

"Most catastrophic" is hard to measure, but 1776 was a bad year in
Manhattan: there was an enormous fire, and the Battle of Harlem Heights.

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John Dean - 22 Jan 2007 17:34 GMT
>> Destruction of the World Trade Centre (9/11) is the
>> most catastrophic event in Manhattan's history (unless
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Manhattan: there was an enormous fire, and the Battle of Harlem
> Heights.

It's relative. The Lenape thought 1624 was cataclysmic when they realised
the $24 was for the whole thing.
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Evan Kirshenbaum - 22 Jan 2007 19:09 GMT
>>> Destruction of the World Trade Centre (9/11) is the most
>>> catastrophic event in Manhattan's history (unless you count
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's relative. The Lenape thought 1624 was cataclysmic when they
> realised the $24 was for the whole thing.

You've got it backward:

   You mean all those trees wasn't part?

   Yes.  Laugh on you.  Whole island solid concrete.  Nothing grow
   except in little square place in middle of island.

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Peter Duncanson - 20 Jan 2007 17:34 GMT
>When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
>they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>by Theophilus Van Kannel, to prevent raging hurricanes in tall hotel
>receptions (Aug 1888).

This could be a reference to the Manhattan Project, the World War 2
project in the US to develop the first nuclear weapons.

The phrase "Manhattan Effect" might be used to suggest that the
components look like buildings that have been pushed into unnatural
positions by a nuclear explosion.

(Just a guess.)

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Peter Duncanson - 20 Jan 2007 20:55 GMT
>This could be a reference to the Manhattan Project, the World War 2
>project in the US to develop the first nuclear weapons.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>(Just a guess.)

And probably a bad guess. I withdraw it.

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Hairy Lethal - 22 Jan 2007 22:40 GMT
> >Is there some property or incident that leads Manhattan into some form of
> >eponymic relationship with the English language? I could understand the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> components look like buildings that have been pushed into unnatural
> positions by a nuclear explosion.

I had also guessed something similar, but then again I have never lived
there, so I do not know if there is anything "special" about the city, other
than the landscape.

Anyway, many thanks to you and all who have replied. Best regards from Harry
mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 20 Jan 2007 17:36 GMT
> So what is so
> special about Manhattan?

Its skyline. Manhattan's is the canonical high-rise skyline.

Also called the tombstone effect, drawbridging or stonehenging.
Manhattan effect particularly when the component which is supposed to
lie horizontal is pulled up into a vertical or near vertical position.
Viewed side-on, the PCB looks like the famous Manhattan skyline. If the
component is at an angle between horizontal and vertical it looks like
a partly open drawbridge. If many components are pulled up to various
near-vertical positions, the effect is like a graveyard full of leaning
tombstones. Stonehenge is a neolithic monument in England with vertical
stones, some with bridge pieces joining two verticals.
DianeE - 20 Jan 2007 19:56 GMT
> ....To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
> happened in Manhattan in history.
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Well, I guess 5 1/2  years ago is prehistoric.  How old *are* you?

DianeE
mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 20 Jan 2007 21:20 GMT
> > ....To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
> > happened in Manhattan in history.
> ------------------
> Well, I guess 5 1/2  years ago is prehistoric.  How old *are* you?
>
> DianeE

Given the references to Berlin, Baghdad, and Hanoi, I think we can
safely say he's being ironic. You do have irony on the left side of the
pond?
mike.j.harvey@gmail.com - 21 Jan 2007 10:40 GMT
> > > ....To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
> > > happened in Manhattan in history.

> Given the references to Berlin, Baghdad, and Hanoi, I think we can
> safely say he's being ironic.

Or even more likely, a troll.
DianeE - 21 Jan 2007 21:44 GMT
> > > ....To my knowledge nothing catastrophic has ever
> > > happened in Manhattan in history.
> > ------------------
> > Well, I guess 5 1/2  years ago is prehistoric.  How old *are* you?

> Given the references to Berlin, Baghdad, and Hanoi, I think we can
> safely say he's being ironic. You do have irony on the left side of the
> pond?
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We do, but it's usually funnier than that.  I see now that the O.P. was
using "catastrophe" to mean "widespread bombing by American armed forces."
Thanks for the correction!

DianeE
irwell - 21 Jan 2007 23:49 GMT
>When you assemble a printed circuit board using surface mount components,
>they should all lie nice and flat against the board. They put a dab of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>WeIrD angles and generally look untidy. This effect is known in the trade as
>the "Manhattan Effect".

The 'trade' also uses Purple Plague to describe an effect
on ICs when the metallization becomes discolored.

>Is there some property or incident that leads Manhattan into some form of
>eponymic relationship with the English language? I could understand the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>by Theophilus Van Kannel, to prevent raging hurricanes in tall hotel
>receptions (Aug 1888).
 
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